** Halal vs Haram **

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Ashii

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no plz,, dont tell me that HALAL is better than HARAM

yeh to sabhi ko pata hai,, but asal mei
halal aur haram kya hein,,,

woh kya baat hoti hai k mehnat se halal ki kamai hui rozi bhi haram ban k lagti hai
hum sab hi halal kamate hein,,, but halal insaan k andar hawas nahi paida karta,, to phir yeh sab kya hai ??????????
Posted 19 May 2005

hAIN
Posted 19 May 2005

mehnat se halal ki kamai hui rozi bhi haram ban k lagti hai --> STRANGE
Posted 19 May 2005

doesnt make any sense
Posted 19 May 2005

SK's right, it doesn't add up! If you can please elaborate.
Posted 20 May 2005

Freddy says
ye sub aik ghorakh dhanda hai................

jo loog asaal mai halal kamatay hain........pehli baat un kay undar havaas nahi hoti........

Havass unheen hoti hai jo khanay walay hotay hain.....shukhaar agar halal kama raha hai tu havass usay nahi uss ki biwi ko ho gey......dosroon kay pass ye hai hamaray pass kue nahi........agar shukhar ko hawas hoti tu woe halal kamata he kue........

biwi bachay ore bohot sei cheezeen........jesay izaat....izaat ajj kaal us ki hoti hai jis kay pass peasa ho doesn't matter what source it comes from........halal kamanay walay kay loog nazdeek be nahi jatay............(zeyada taar halal kamanay walay ghareeb he rehtay hain)..

Posted 20 May 2005

Ashii says
Smooth_daddy said:

SK's right, it doesn't add up! If you can please elaborate.


hmmmmmmmm...

read freddy's post and then mine
Posted 20 May 2005

Ashii says
faradiya said:

Havass unheen hoti hai jo khanay walay hotay hain.....shukhaar agar halal kama raha hai tu havass usay nahi uss ki biwi ko ho gey......dosroon kay pass ye hai hamaray pass kue nahi........agar shukhar ko hawas hoti tu woe halal kamata he kue........


mera kehna ka matlab yehi tha k halal khamane AUR KHANE WALON mei havas kyun aa jati hai

dooosri gal,,,
shakoor sahab k liye apni biwi aur bache Khuda k hukum se zyada important hai to shakoor sahab ki aisi ki taisi
hann na jii,,

kehne ka matlab sirfff yeh tha k
kkkk
k.....

kahin aisa to nahi k halal ki kamai hamari majboori ho,, matlab yeh k hum becharon ko haram kamane ka chance hi na mila ho,, aur hamari kamai majboori se halal ho gai ho
havas iss liye barh gai hai kyun niyyat abhi bhi zyada paisa kamane ki hai,, par kya na, chance nahi mil raha



hmmm,, mera khyal me kuch bongiyan mar rahi hu,, imma bit tired,, zyada detail mei phir kabhi farma'ain ge hum
Posted 20 May 2005

I think we have rolled several things into one which makes it little confusing.

Halal earnings, if spent to purchase haram and consuming it turns that earning into haram

Purchasing halal things with haram earnings makes use of that hal thing haram. example: People sell alcohol in their stores and shops. They purchase halal meat for consumption from those earnings. So whatever they consume is no less haram then consuming haram meat.
Posted 25 May 2005

I assume you mean desires / whims by hawas!

Desire's natural and so is its satisfaction pursuit. Key's not to succumb to it especially for personal gains. Becoming slave of desires is where one leaves halal means and halal objectives.

Desire to excel in Allah's path is worship and to work for it is also worship.
Posted 25 May 2005

YAAR SHE IS SAYING HALAAL KAAMA KEY HARAAM KYUN LAGTA HAI...
Posted 25 May 2005

SK, I don't understand that statement but I am responding to what I understood from Fradiya and her later posts.

Intention of doing haram don't count against you until you do it. If someone didn't get a chance to earn haram, he / she can't be held liable for wrong doing. Now, it is a different thing when someone tried to arrange haram means but did not succeed.
Hard earnened could be from haram mean also. One who works hard to sell P**Nographic material or making wine, his / her hard earned income is from haram sources.

Posted 25 May 2005

yeah
Posted 25 May 2005

BadShaH1 says
Well one thing for sure, haram is not good for u, scientifically haram things react negatively with u and ur enviornment, and it destroys u, while halal things scientifically react in accordance with ur system makeing u able to spend life with ease!


u seen the HALAL HARAM theory in "RAJA GIDH" of bano qudsia??
Posted 26 May 2005

yaar baadshah thats a logic--> haraam is not good for you..offcourse not
Posted 26 May 2005

BadShaH1 said:

Well one thing for sure, haram is not good for u, scientifically haram things react negatively with u and ur enviornment, and it destroys u, while halal things scientifically react in accordance with ur system makeing u able to spend life with ease!


u seen the HALAL HARAM theory in "RAJA GIDH" of bano qudsia??



hahha besides my opinion ke haram achi cheez nahi haur aur buhat nuqsan wali bat hai, but the way u are saying ke scientifically there are some dusturbances, i am not agreed with this. prove it. where it is written. any researches (well bano qudsia hahaha a scientist?).

bano qudsias theory is(as i understood) that haram is interferring with ur genes. that means that ur next generations must be affected because of ur haram, too. the children are in this case free of being gulity becuase there parents earnt haram and so they affected the children. if in this case, the children do the same, coz they cant do anything else, coz they are affected on genetically basis, then why blame them. iss tarah to koi bhi aakar keh sakta hai ke main haram kha and kama raha hun, kionke mere Amman Abba ne yeh kaam kar ke mere genes change kar diye hain. its funny, dont u think?

and its not a theory in the scientific way. its not even a hypothesis. its so called, "buhat lambi lambi chori hai, muhtarma bano qudsia sahiba ne".
Posted 30 May 2005

Ashii says
Smooth_daddy said:

I think we have rolled several things into one which makes it little confusing.


im born to confuse ppl,, even myself
its my speciality



Smooth_daddy said:

Halal earnings, if spent to purchase haram and consuming it turns that earning into haram


hum yeh keh rahe the,,,
agar koi jaan kar, sache dil se halal kamae to haram mei kharch kyun kare ga bhala
it makes no sense,, par aisa hota hai
Y ??


Smooth_daddy said:

I assume you mean desires / whims by hawas!


par wohi baat aa gai naaaa,,
jo halal kamata hai,, uss mei hawas kahan se i
ya phir as i said before,, halal kamana majboori hai
Posted 31 May 2005

Ashii says
Smooth_daddy said:

Intention of doing haram don't count against you until you do it. If someone didn't get a chance to earn haram, he / she can't be held liable for wrong doing. Now, it is a different thing when someone tried to arrange haram means but did not succeed.


well,,,,,, indirectly bad intention does count
coz iss ka matlab hota hai that u ve no will to go against wrong acts
the moment u ll get a chance aap foran burai ki taraf jao ge,,,
Posted 31 May 2005

Ashii says
BadShaH1 said:

Well one thing for sure, haram is not good for u, scientifically haram things react negatively with u and ur enviornment, and it destroys u, while halal things scientifically react in accordance with ur system makeing u able to spend life with ease!
u seen the HALAL HARAM theory in "RAJA GIDH" of bano qudsia??



djeedja lotta said:

hahha besides my opinion ke haram achi cheez nahi haur aur buhat nuqsan wali bat hai, but the way u are saying ke scientifically there are some dusturbances, i am not agreed with this. prove it. where it is written. any researches (well bano qudsia hahaha a scientist?).

bano qudsias theory is(as i understood) that haram is interferring with ur genes. that means that ur next generations must be affected because of ur haram, too. the children are in this case free of being gulity becuase there parents earnt haram and so they affected the children. if in this case, the children do the same, coz they cant do anything else, coz they are affected on genetically basis, then why blame them. iss tarah to koi bhi aakar keh sakta hai ke main haram kha and kama raha hun, kionke mere Amman Abba ne yeh kaam kar ke mere genes change kar diye hain. its funny, dont u think?

and its not a theory in the scientific way. its not even a hypothesis. its so called, "buhat lambi lambi chori hai, muhtarma bano qudsia sahiba ne".


uffffff DL
dont b sarcastic,,
i think from the moment koi bhi baat insaan ko burai se roke to woh sahi hi hoti hai



jahan tak bano qudsia ki baat hai,,, her book is a fiction yar,, i really love that book but still its only philo,, words se maar na khao sab

"haram ka asar 7 naslon tak jata hai" yeh baat to sabhi kehte hein,, par iss ka matlab kya hai yeh koi nahi batata,,,
it doesnt mean k aap ki next generations harr jugement se paak ho gai,
sirf itna k galt log apni aulad ki galt parwarish hi karein ge,, beshak na chahte hue,,, hum log apne mahol ki kaun kaun si baton se inspire hote hein hum khud nahi jante,,
galt logon mei pale hue bache 'sarkash' hote hein,, par iss ka matlab yeh nahi k woh ache hi nahi ban sakte,, fark sirf itna hota hai k agar woh koi burai karein ge to saza pa'ain ge,, par unn ki harr burai ka azaab unn k palne walon ko bhi mile ga
genetic disorder ka koi taluk nahi hai iss se,,,
par iss khauf se hi agar log haram se bach ja'ain to kya harj hai



hmm,, yeh mera apna opinion hai
jo baat galt kahi me ne usse aram se bolo,,,
Posted 31 May 2005

SALL said:

Smooth_daddy said:

Intention of doing haram don't count against you until you do it. If someone didn't get a chance to earn haram, he / she can't be held liable for wrong doing. Now, it is a different thing when someone tried to arrange haram means but did not succeed.


well,,,,,, indirectly bad intention does count
coz iss ka matlab hota hai that u ve no will to go against wrong acts
the moment u ll get a chance aap foran burai ki taraf jao ge,,,

I didn't make that up, Prophet of Allah said so, and this is from the mercy of Allah. Again, you can't penalize anyone for a crime / wrong doing until it's committed or being committed.
Posted 31 May 2005

Ashii says
SD yarr,, i know
'it does count' se matlab yeh nahi k gunah milta hai
par matlab yeh k insaan ki will power khatam ho jati hai

its like,, a lot of ppl thing that smoking is not haram,, but its a fact that it destroy ur health
i samajh
Posted 03 Jun 2005

Surly, effects of haram can pass on to generations but its not true in all cases.
Posted 05 Jun 2005

Ashii says
not in all cases yar,,
but zyada

Allah miyan harr kisam k haram se bachae rakhein sab ko
Ameen




arey han
i was reading a book few days ago,, and uss mei a guy s drinking wine aur doosra usse kehta hai "sharab kharab cheez hai"
and first man replies "kharab woh nahi jo mu mei jata hai, kharab woh hai jo mu se bahir aata hai"
Posted 06 Jun 2005

SALL said:

not in all cases yar,,
but zyada



It has effects on behaviors and attitudes but can't be generalized.


SALL said:


arey han
i was reading a book few days ago,, and uss mei a guy s drinking wine aur doosra usse kehta hai "sharab kharab cheez hai"
and first man replies "kharab woh nahi jo mu mei jata hai, kharab woh hai jo mu se bahir aata hai"



People justify what they do and condemn what they don't do. What ever bad goes in the mouth and whatever bad comes out it are prohibited for believers. Not all bad comes out of the mouth and not all good goes in it if left unchecked.
Posted 07 Jun 2005

Ashii says
areyyy yarrr,,
yeh to bass aik baat thi

no one is justifying anything,,
par kehne ka matlab sirf yeh k halal haram sirf khane peene pe khatam nahi hai
Posted 07 Jun 2005

you should have said so

agreed
Posted 08 Jun 2005

Ashii says
SD bro,,,

iss baat ka first part pe mera dehan bhi nahi gaya,, coz it makes no sense,, par poori baat makes a lot of sense,,

harr achi ya buri baat mei se kuch na kuch seekhna chaiye,,




hmmm,,, lemme start a new topic
Posted 09 Jun 2005

...and take action after learning

another topic -- so no more of halal haram!
Posted 09 Jun 2005

Ashii says
obviously yarrrr,,,

isse bhi jari rakhte hein naa
hmm,,, yahan or in religion
Posted 09 Jun 2005

BadShaH1 says
djeedja lotta said:

BadShaH1 said:

Well one thing for sure, haram is not good for u, scientifically haram things react negatively with u and ur enviornment, and it destroys u, while halal things scientifically react in accordance with ur system makeing u able to spend life with ease!


u seen the HALAL HARAM theory in "RAJA GIDH" of bano qudsia??



hahha besides my opinion ke haram achi cheez nahi haur aur buhat nuqsan wali bat hai, but the way u are saying ke scientifically there are some dusturbances, i am not agreed with this. prove it. where it is written. any researches (well bano qudsia hahaha a scientist?).

bano qudsias theory is(as i understood) that haram is interferring with ur genes. that means that ur next generations must be affected because of ur haram, too. the children are in this case free of being gulity becuase there parents earnt haram and so they affected the children. if in this case, the children do the same, coz they cant do anything else, coz they are affected on genetically basis, then why blame them. iss tarah to koi bhi aakar keh sakta hai ke main haram kha and kama raha hun, kionke mere Amman Abba ne yeh kaam kar ke mere genes change kar diye hain. its funny, dont u think?

and its not a theory in the scientific way. its not even a hypothesis. its so called, "buhat lambi lambi chori hai, muhtarma bano qudsia sahiba ne".



well proof u say? Wut abt Quran where after every order, Allah says"It is the for Betterment of U , Only u dont understand"
how abt a single example of SAARS, it evolved due to eating of cats.
how abt Aids ?

the mention of BANO QUDSIA wuz just a complimentry one, bcuz im a fan of hers and her husband
Posted 10 Jun 2005

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