Jannati-Aurat

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This is the name of the book(jannati-Aurat)
written by Maulana Mufti Mohd Arshaad
(Prof of Hadith in India)

Iss book mein woh jannti-auton ki khoobiyan describe kar rahay hein .. hadith ki roshni mein!..
Now there is 1 thng ..tht confuses me

he rote one hadith in which our Prophet(P.B.U.H) said ..

"shohar say elhdagi chahnay wali ya khaalah ka mutaalba karnay wali orat..munafiq hai"


n in the explantion he(the prof) is saying tht no matter wht happens a women shud not ask for ths!..
wht if there is no other way!!!!..sometimes marraiges take such turns tht divorce is the only way out!
thn wht?!..
i m confused!..
y wud she b called munafiq..
Posted 15 Aug 2005

guest. says
my scanner aint working ryt now!..
so i cant scan the page!..bt i wud scan it as soon as i gt the scanner fixed
coz mayb i didnt translate it properly in english

SD or WOL
or any1 else!..
plz..do explain to me
coz ths hadith hs confused me lottt

Posted 15 Aug 2005

shohar say elhdagi chahnay wali ya khaalah ka mutaalba karnay wali orat..munafiq hai"--> ALLAH KNOWS BETTER
Posted 15 Aug 2005

subha says
laikan jaise shohar ho haq hay talaq ka aise hi aurat ko haq hay khaalah ka to kiya mard bi munafiq hoa ?
Posted 15 Aug 2005

guest. says
per yeh hadith hai athar
ghalt tou ho he nahin sakti na!..
Posted 15 Aug 2005

subha says
khaalah ka haq khuda ne jab aurat ko diya hay to woh mangey bina kaise mile ga ?
Posted 15 Aug 2005

guest. says
subha said:

laikan jaise shohar ho haq hay talaq ka aise hi aurat ko haq hay khaalah ka to kiya mard bi munafiq hoa ?



exactly..wht i thot!!!

or ek or hadith bhi hai isi book mein jis mein yeh likha hai k

"jo orat apnay shohar say bila kisi zarorat shadeed,o pareshani k tallak mangay!..os per jannat ki khusbu haram hai"


per issi say contradict karti hai dusri hadith!


Posted 15 Aug 2005

I really don't want to to comment on the ahadeeth bcuz I don't know the source or content of it. There are, however, many weak and fabricated traditions attributed to the Prophet.
Posted 15 Aug 2005

guest. says
okies..here r the scans!
of both hadith!








Posted 15 Aug 2005

guest. says
the 2nd 1 is confusin me!
i get the first 1


per 1st wali hadith ..dusri ko ghalt sabit karti hai na
Posted 15 Aug 2005

I THINK KASHI TUM NAY DONO KO GOR SAY NAHI READ KIYA


first of all agar ALLAH nay human iss cheez ki ejazat di hai tu iss ka matlab ye hargiz nahi kay iss ka galat use kiya jaey dats y humain dono hadith main yahi batany ki KOSHISH KI GAI HAI .....dono hadith ka andaz-e-biyan(way of talk) different hai BAS.

~~~~BOTH R SAME ~~~


AIK MAIN (first one)EXPLAIN KAR DIYA HAI KAY AURAT MUNAFIK KIS SURAT MAIN HAI (yani agar wo binna kisi waja kay KHULA MANGTI HAI TU)......jab kay (2ND )dosri main sirif batay giya hai kay khula mangnay wali aurat munafik hai ......(iss main pora explain nahi kiya )

Posted 15 Aug 2005

dono hadith ki explanation main zaror iss cheez ko clear kiya giya hoga .......i m sure tum nay read kar nay main misstake ki hai........
Posted 15 Aug 2005

~ mººñ_£îght ~ said:







Read it care fully ... and u can find it very logical ....

first of all they dictated ... "with out any reason"
aur jab koi reason nahi ho tu ... aap koi baat karo gay tu woh aap k zehan ki ehtaraaa (imagination) ho gi aur yah koi sharart ... tu ... is ka saab sa matlabyeh hay k koi agar bagair kissi wajah k aysi soch rakhy k us ko apny shohar say elehda hona hay tu .... aur agar woh (us ka shohar ) usay paryshani bhi nahi dyta tu ... fir us ko bhi aysi soch nahi rakhni chahiye...

coz agar hum is "SOCH" ki tafseel mein jayein tu aap ko khud hi andaza ho ga k agar koi Aurat apny Shohar say Muhlis (sincere) nahi ho tu kya kya Muasharati (social) buraiyean ... pyda ho sakti hein.


Moonlite said:







i wont take it long ... simple jis aurat ki chahat ... khawahish ... intention hi yeh ho k woh apny shohar k saath nahi rehna chahti ... tu us ko munafiq kehna ... is very obvious.


(and jus remember Islam is not only a Religion it is actully a Cod of Life...    jo k aap ko zindagi k har masly say agah karta hay ...

Posted 16 Aug 2005

subha said:

laikan jaise shohar ho haq hay talaq ka aise hi aurat ko haq hay khaalah ka to kiya mard bi munafiq hoa ?



as u know , kashu is talking abt a BOOK dat is specially written for Women so its jus a usless thing k you jus come and try to compare Men with you ...

look , our biggest pb is k we always try to involve others ... k woh bhi tu ghalat karty hein ...

jab k i always say k humein khud ko sab say pehly theek karna chahiye... aur fir dosroun ko batana chahiye

like

in simple words ...

"khud ba-amal ho aur fir dosroun ko mashwara do"
Posted 16 Aug 2005

first one means key without any reason or depression TALAAQ maange tu woh aurat can forget jannat
Posted 16 Aug 2005

guest. says
i knw wht first 1 means!
or os mein hamay confusion nahin hai
kyunk os mein saaf likha hai k baghair reason k nahin mangni chahiye talaak!


per dusri wali mein!
baghair reason k yeh kaha gaya k khaalah mangnay wali orat muafiq hai
so tht confused me!!!

bt i think i m gettng it now!
thanx evry1
Posted 16 Aug 2005

i think shahyad woh kisi aur ke saath....tabhi
Posted 16 Aug 2005

subha says
~ mººñ_£îght ~ said:

Now there is 1 thng ..tht confuses me

he rote one hadith in which our Prophet(P.B.U.H) said ..

"shohar say elhdagi chahnay wali ya khaalah ka mutaalba karnay wali orat..munafiq hai"


n in the explantion he(the prof) is saying tht no matter wht happens a women shud not ask for ths!..
wht if there is no other way!!!!..sometimes marraiges take such turns tht divorce is the only way out!
thn wht?!..
i m confused!..
y wud she b called munafiq..




subha said:

laikan jaise shohar ho haq hay talaq ka aise hi aurat ko haq hay khaalah ka to kiya mard bi munafiq hoa ?







WARMTH OF LOVE said:

subha said:

laikan jaise shohar ho haq hay talaq ka aise hi aurat ko haq hay khaalah ka to kiya mard bi munafiq hoa ?



as u know , kashu is talking abt a BOOK dat is specially written for Women so its jus a usless thing k you jus come and try to compare Men with you ...

look , our biggest pb is k we always try to involve others ... k woh bhi tu ghalat karty hein ...

jab k i always say k humein khud ko sab say pehly theek karna chahiye... aur fir dosroun ko batana chahiye

like

in simple words ...

"khud ba-amal ho aur fir dosroun ko mashwara do"




aap ne shaid posts parhi nahi jab kash ne pehli post ki thi yeh uss k bad tha
jab k kash ki dusri hadith biyan karne per hum ko pata chal giya k asal baat kiya hay
maine mashwara nahi diya sirf aik sawal kiya tha k khaala aur talaq ka taluk mard aurat donoon
se hay koi akele hi yeh kaam nahi kar sakta
is liye mard ka zikar tha
aur wese bi agar baat book ki ho rahi hay to aaj taq jb
ka kaun sa topic hay jo mozu se hath k na chala ho?


Posted 16 Aug 2005

subha said:




aap ne shaid posts parhi nahi jab kash ne pehli post ki thi yeh uss k bad tha
jab k kash ki dusri hadith biyan karne per hum ko pata chal giya k asal baat kiya hay
maine mashwara nahi diya sirf aik sawal kiya tha k khaala aur talaq ka taluk mard aurat donoon
se hay koi akele hi yeh kaam nahi kar sakta
is liye mard ka zikar tha
aur wese bi agar baat book ki ho rahi hay to aaj taq jb
ka kaun sa topic hay jo mozu se hath k na chala ho?




nice observation    
Posted 17 Aug 2005

WOL
Its the translation in Urdu of the actual text. If it means the woman who desires in her heart separation from her husband, WOL's very right. If it means asking separation, than the first one explains it.
Posted 17 Aug 2005

guest. says
ahan got it!
now..i m confused abt 1 more thng!
bt tht i dunno..if its ok to post a topic abt it or not!
anywz

Posted 17 Aug 2005

~ mººñ_£îght ~ said:

ahan got it!
now..i m confused abt 1 more thng!
bt tht i dunno..if its ok to post a topic abt it or not!
anywz



post it...
Posted 17 Aug 2005

Ashii says
hmmmmm,,,,
interesting


in simple words,, koi bhi shaks, mard or aurat
dil mei kuch aur samne kuch ho to woh munafik hota hai
well i think munafik ki def yeh hi hai

Posted 17 Aug 2005

Sall, tht's a very generalized definition of Nifaq. Prophet SAW did not label anyone as Munafiq even when Allah SWT specifically told him about who were the munafiqeen.

Hypocrites, called in Quran, worse than disbelievers and their abode will be in the deepest chambers of Hell Fire. There types are either "hypocracy of faith" or "hypocracy of act". Former is the worst becus they intend to hurt Islam and Muslims from within. They are decietful, i.e someone, who's kafir in heart and wishes ill for righteous Muslims but shows-off as righteous muslim and well wisher of believers. Later kind is of those whose acts dont match their belief. For example, people who believe stealing is a sin and still do it; who know Allah ordered prayers but they skip it; they know foul language is prohibited, yet they don't refrain.
Posted 17 Aug 2005

Smooth_daddy said:

Sall, tht's a very generalized definition of Nifaq. Prophet SAW did not label anyone as Munafiq even when Allah SWT specifically told him about who were the munafiqeen.

Hypocrites, called in Quran, worse than disbelievers and their abode will be in the deepest chambers of Hell Fire. There types are either "hypocracy of faith" or "hypocracy of act". Former is the worst becus they intend to hurt Islam and Muslims from within. They are decietful, i.e someone, who's kafir in heart and wishes ill for righteous Muslims but shows-off as righteous muslim and well wisher of believers. Later kind is of those whose acts dont match their belief. For example, people who believe stealing is a sin and still do it; who know Allah ordered prayers but they skip it; they know foul language is prohibited, yet they don't refrain.



hadith
Posted 17 Aug 2005

hadeeth about what Quran says!
Posted 17 Aug 2005

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