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Why is there so much homosexuality in Pakistan?
Posted 20 Oct 2005

jjpr says
Chandramuki said:

nikama said:

o.k.homo- sxuality is reality in pakistan,phir kya kia jay?



Ye kia jay:

Educate your children early on that homosexuality is haraam, it doesn't have to be said that way, but carried out in practise, like don't let them dress with other boy/girls, build a strong sense of sharaam in them.


Good point. Though I don't think there is any harm in actually telling them that it is Haraam.
Posted 31 Oct 2005

CM

I would say training with education. By that I mean Tarbiyat: when education is committed to heart and mind.

Nikama grat question. Haya is God gifted to every one - its the fitra of human creation.

The real thing is what's the motivation for haya? Why should one stay away from haram even when they know its haram?

Only motivation to that is firm belief and understanding of meeting with the Lord Almighty who will take account of actions. This motivation must be instilled among children.
Posted 31 Oct 2005

nikama says
bilkul sahi.only sense of accountability can stop us from commiting these heinous crimes.tarbiat is all the more important too.
Posted 01 Nov 2005

Badal says
Chandramuki said:

*sighs* Quran isn't a dictionary, that's degrading it, but then you use terms in your own way so i'm not surprized you'd be using other things differently as well. you irritate me, there are two types of questions people ask, one, those who are trying to find an answer to increase their knowlegde, and two, those who ask just for sake of stirring trouble and getting at people in an argumentative and jahaal manner. Your questions are not only unclear but fall into catagory two so i don't have the patience to deal with you.

your wierd reasoning, patronising and arrogant manner are not going to conform my thinking and ideology, so you should just give it a rest.

If you really are in this to benifit others, follow SD's exapmle of mature, learned and modest approach. You've been constantly trying to put me down in hopes of "defeating" me, well firstly that's not going to happen, I've dealt with people like you before and you don't scare or intimidate me, and yes it has just been me, i don't know why, maybe because I'm a girl and you're sexist, you haven't once commented on anyone else, for a homophobic like you it's surprizing you didn't once comment on BadShah's remark on use all being a bit homosexual.

If you keep coming at people with a big headed and demeaning attitude which makes you look like you're trying to intimidate rather than explain, it's going to get you no where.



Aww... more names now; sexist, homophobic... dont worry it wont irritate me even a little

now you are picking up my words instead of views now yes Quran is like a dictionay for Muslims, it mentions and explains everything related to our lives. And we are ordered to consult Quran for guidance, not answers.com. if my thinking cant conform anyone's thinkig and ideology, then your thinking too cant deform anyone's thoughts and ideology after reading my comments which is based on Quran and not on my opinion.
Posted 08 Nov 2005

Badal says
SALL said:

interesting views




i ve just one thing to add
dont compare pak with other contries,,, the best way to hide ur dark side is to say that it also happen in other contries,,,
y do we care so much abt the rest of the world as we never adopt their qualities,, instead when its question of a wrong practice we hide behind the sentence "bure log aur jaga bhi hote hein"
wot was the need for a separate MUSLIM STATE then ??
agar sab baki jaga jaisa hona hai to PAK ki kya zaroorat hai



MashaAllah, kia baat hai aap ki

where did i say that there is no homox in pakistan? or where did i say that "bure log tu har jaga hotay hain" so yahaan bhi honay chahiyen ya yahaan bhi honay say koi fark nahi parta? baat ko ghuma kar kahaan le gaeen, pehlay answer karain phir main explain karta hoon.

aur ye bhi batain kay ye MUSLIM STATE hoti kia hai aakhir jo baar baar MUSLIM STATE honay ka tanna diya jata hai? throw some light on it.
Posted 08 Nov 2005

Badal says
Smooth_daddy said:

Badal & CM you are not very far apart in your opinions. Its only the positions we are taking so very strongly that make us bitter and unforthcoming.

This is a very interesting topic. We must build on it in a positve way.

Sall, your point - well taken. People say that to justify their own actions or whatever wrong happens around them. Instead one should acknowledge and recognizie wrong and immoral practices. That's first step toward correction and moral uplifting.



SD justifying an action is another thing and being offensive on an undue criticism is another thing, you cant mix up them.

aur jahaan tak acknowledge aur recognize karnay ki baat hai tu can you say kay we do not acknowledge or recognize it? kon nahi janta hai? ye "first step" kitni bar uthana hoga ye batain? jis forum par bhi chalay jao yahi nazar ata hai "why is such and such sins are there, why ppl do and dont such and such things". koi is taraf nahi ata kay kaisay roka jaye inhain, koi inspirational article ya discusion nahi hoti is ko roknay kay liye, ulta ye comments sunnay ko miltay hain kay "they are normal ppl like us", "its their own business" etc, kia is tarah theek hoga sab? ye contribution hai humari sins roknay kay liye. is article ki jaga ye bhi hosakta tha kay koi aisay sins ko roknay kay liye koi article hota kuch ideas hotay, solutions suggest hotay, par nahi, wohi aik gardaan, YE hota hai yahaan, YE kyun hota hai, halaankay sab jantay hain kyun hota hai.
Posted 08 Nov 2005

Badal says
I am again going to my home, dada jaan ki tabiat kharab ho gae hai, he is in nishtar, abhi abhi pata chala by phone, will meet after 2 or 3 days perhaps, dua kijiyega at least main un say mil tu sakoon. Allah Hafiz.

Posted 08 Nov 2005

nikama says
ALLAH ap k dada jan ko sehat ata farmay,aamin.but badal dear,although i so much respect u for your views on religion and other serious topics,still sometimes your posts parh ker aisa lagta he k u r always ready to teach and never to learn.i mean u just take every difference of opinion as personal insult which is wrong.CHANDER MUKHI might b wrong at one point or two but there is no need to wage out a war against her.SMOOTH DADDY was just trying to cool u down but ....and SALL was not talking to u,she referred to the points raised by me and n.b.and a few other friends.learn not to prejudje others on the basis of your own ideas.i said this because i really like u otherwise.no offence meant
Posted 08 Nov 2005

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