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In the recent past, a so-called Islamic website has been launched by Babar Razzaq Chaudhry, (Alrehman- Alrahem.com) claiming to be an Islamic scholar. This group is Toheedi Group, headed by Babar Chaudhry. The activities of this group are dubious and mostly youngsters affiliated with showbiz are becoming its members. In order to attract influential people, interviews of prominent personalities are telecasted, lauding activities of this group. They also use a TV Channel for its promotion.

Few armed forces Officers have also been interviewed at IDEAS/ITCN Expo Exhibition, which were aired on a local private channel. Few TV stars also been showing interviewing people locally and abroad, visiting different places like markets, exhibition, jails, hospitals, and others, in order to publicize the so called religious group of Babar Chaudhry.

Babar Chaudhry was brought up in PECHS Karachi. In mid eighties, he went to United States. His old colleagues know him as a cheat. In early eighties, he eloped a Christian lady for which FIR was lodged is PS Ferozabad. He got married to another lady named SAIRA (d/o an Italian Jew). The father of the girl was very rich who financially supported Babar Chaudhry.

In year 2001, once he was caught red-handed interacting sexually with her student, Shela, in his centre, he was forced to contract marriage with her to avoid his murder, as the man who saw them, threatened to kill him if he did not marry the girl.

After only six month, he contracted marriage with another student of his centre, Sadaf.

It is permitted that Babar Chaudhry is associated / sponsored by US/ Jewish community in order to deviate the young mid-aged generation from the basic concepts of Islam. His recommended visas are honored by US consulate. The number of his followers is increasing rapidly. Mostly youngsters who are living modern life style are attracted to this group.

“Jamiah Binoria Karachi” has issued to Fatwa against Babar Chaudhry, advising Muslim community to avoid interaction with him. (LINK)


http://www.onlinefatwa.com/pages/babar.html


Following activities have been observed at the residence of Babar Chaudhry, while delivering lecturers to his followers:

i) Males and females sit together and Parda is not observed.

ii) All the participants sit bare-headed while reciting the Holy Quran.

iii) Babar Chaudhry himself sit on the stage which his sit on the ground with the Holy Quran in their hands.

iv) At the ends of the lecture, the participants put the Holy Quran in their bags and carry it on their backs like ordinary school books.

v) No one can contact the centre directly. All new entrants are asked to get prior appointment. After proper verification, appointment is given.







Posted 11 Nov 2005

aikalone says
U r right. wo gumrahee kee taraf leja rahey hain muslims young generations koo. Or ye ho sakta hay kay ye jews ki sazish hoo. bcz they are the enemies of Muslims specailly Pakistan.

Allah Ham sab ko apni hifazat main rakhe or hamare eemaan kee bhee Hifazat farmayey.

AAMEEN.
Posted 11 Nov 2005

nikama says
cant say anything for now
Posted 12 Nov 2005

new_beau says
I heard about thi ssite as an Islamic websote...long time back..but never visited...I would like to study it first...But Supid Bro. I believe in You..

I will be care ful...JazakAllah Bil KHair
Posted 12 Nov 2005

Ashii says

who the hellllllll is that guy
is his centre in pak ???

wot abt his followers ??
dont they know the raelity abt him ????????
Posted 13 Nov 2005

SupidGuy says



new_beau said:

I heard about thi ssite as an Islamic websote...long time back..but never visited...I would like to study it first...But Supid Bro. I believe in You..

I will be care ful...JazakAllah Bil KHair




Thanks for Appericiation!
but Confirmation zaroor karna aur hamien bhi batana....


Posted 13 Nov 2005

new_beau says


Ok Here I am with Some Question !!!

Bismillah Ar Rahman Ar Raheem...

Q. If Queen Victoria writes a Letter to ULAMA of Karachi that...JANUBABA is an UnIslamic Site and My Brother is a Member of That Site. This site says, No Body can Make can Degrade anyone by the Colour, Caste, Maslak, Religion and choice of Girl Friends. WILL SHE GET ANY FATWA ??? (Just on the base of and in reply of a simple hand written letter ? )

Q. www.alrahman-alraheem.com IS NOT OPENING. I cant check, Can Some Body Help ?

Q. If Babar Chaudhry is Teaching Something Wrong about Islam, What is the Authentic Proof about it ?

Q. Before Giving this FATWA, Had ULAMA did any TEHQEEQ ? or just they said whatever the felt ?

Q. Any one of our Ulama Tried to Meet Babar Chaudhry or Not ??

Q. If Yes , He welcomed them or he refused to meet ?

Q. What is the Style of Babar Chaudhry ? Peer Mureed Style ? Or something Else ?

....Few more will come later ....

EXAMPLE !!

According to my Basic Info, NAMAZ is SABIT from QURAN, but the way to perform is described in HADEETH.

According to Quran, Allah Says,

Whoever fears Allah, Come and dou QAYAAM with AAJZI (This is not actual word..This is only the Meaning and Concept)

QAYAAM means to Concentrate and To do AAZJZI...

Now Some Fellows pray with OPEN HANDS STARIGHTLY...Some Keep their Hands on Chest, Some a Little Down...

WE have to CONCENTRATE and AAJZI ...and to Bow Are Head in front of Allah, Whoever feels AAJZI and Crying Eyes in whatever position He is doing like that.

Just Like that, If Babar Chaoudhry is Saying that TAKE GUIDENCE DIRECTLY FROM QURAAN....

Did somebody tried to sit with him and tried to share his views.

Regarding Classes of Young Boys and Gorls Togather, Its Not Starnge. If we can take Education Combinely why not religious Education ??

WHAT I THINK....Now a days, Youth is very Confuse about Islam, every Molvi and AALIM is telling different things about performing Islam. So No body comes this way.

MAY BE ALLAH HAS GIVEN HIDAYAT to Bar Chaoudhry...and he is performing his duty to Direct the Youth towards Islam in an WORLDLY WAY.


Please Comment ....

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What ever ritten above is only my own views. Please dont take it Hardly. May Allah Give us Hidaya to Understand the Truth
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Posted 13 Nov 2005

new_beau says
More News....


This Guy came on ARY ONE WORLD channel..twice...And he debated in a good Islamic Way. He is not a Munkar of Hadith...As Ulama stated in their Fatwa taht He is a Munkar...


Searching More Info.....
Posted 14 Nov 2005

SupidGuy said:


Following activities have been observed at the residence of Babar Chaudhry, while delivering lecturers to his followers:

i) Males and females sit together and Parda is not observed.

ii) All the participants sit bare-headed while reciting the Holy Quran.

iii) Babar Chaudhry himself sit on the stage which his sit on the ground with the Holy Quran in their hands.

iv) At the ends of the lecture, the participants put the Holy Quran in their bags and carry it on their backs like ordinary school books.

v) No one can contact the centre directly. All new entrants are asked to get prior appointment. After proper verification, appointment is given.



I don't find anything haram being done in the above stated activities. I don't know the person and don't know about what he preaches. i can't base my opinion about another person based on what someone else says about him. How do I know what is tated of his background is correct either. There are no references to any sources either. I will only comment on the activities listed above.

Male and females sitting in one room is not prohibited. It is prohibited when non-mehram sit next to each other.

Head covering is not a requirement for reciting or learning Quran. Only Tahara is required (ablution). Females sitting in the presence of non-mehram are required to cover their heads regardless of whether they are reading Quran or not.

I didn't understand the third point. If you mean he sits above the level of Quran, there are no prohibitions of that either as long as intention is not to degrade Quran.

There is no proof from any Quranic injunctions or hadeeth that putting Quran in the back pack or behind the back is prohibited.

"No one can contact the centre directly. All new entrants are asked to get prior appointment. After proper verification, appointment is given." - is this unislamic?




Posted 14 Nov 2005

nikama says
actually,i dont completely disagree with supid guy.we have seen so many like him who come into lime light with so good intentions and prove otherwise after sometime.gohar shahi,maj.amin minhas,yousaf kazzab...there r so many.so now we ppl have become sceptic,if anyone shows a new approach towards religion,we begin to doubt his intention.i know nothing abt this man but there r some others whose activities r dubious to say the least.
Posted 15 Nov 2005

Its not fair to judge a person based on the acts of others.
Posted 15 Nov 2005

new_beau says
Anyone Else ??
Posted 15 Nov 2005

Rapunzel says
ok
Posted 18 Nov 2005

new_beau says
rapunzel said:

ok



Just dont be agree...

Please investigate on your own ...
Posted 19 Nov 2005

Rapunzel says
ok
Posted 21 Nov 2005

rapunzel said:

ok



ok!
but what does it mean?
Posted 21 Nov 2005

LiL_DollY says
interesting
Posted 21 Nov 2005

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