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Ashii

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gustakhi muaf..
again a silly question





yeh jo we keep recieving mails like
Mohammad (saw) or Allah or kalma nazar aata hai,, chand pe,,, kissi veg pe,,, kissi scenery mei
koi natural desastre (tsunami, ...) mei Khuda ki shaan ya azaab dhoondte hein,,   being a muslim i believe that dunya ka saara nizam Allah miyan k haath mei hai,, iss kainat ka aik aik zarra Khuda k hukm ka mohtaaj hai
tamam natural desastres obviously ALLAH miyan k hukm se hi aate hein... i dont have any doubt abt it


to phir isss sab ka kya matlab hai ??
Y we keep looking for signs to prove Allah's existance ??
kya humein Khuda ki zaat k hone pe koi shak hai ??


Quran pak mei aaya hai k gumrah aur kafir/munafiq kaum paighambron se nishaniyan mangti thi,,, aur unn nishaniyon k baad bhi unn pe jo asar hota tha woh temporary hota tha......
kya hum unn logon mei se hein ??




agar kissi ko yeh question bura lage to plz gussa nahi hona,,
Posted 28 Mar 2005

friend_16 says
umm.. mera ye khayal hai kay ye jo signs deekhtay hein.. like recently Tsunami par jo deekhaya .. tu ye is liay kay loog darain Allah say .. yakeen karein kay ye Us ka he azaaab hai.. coz jaab kisi cheez ko prove ker doo na tu loog ziada jaldii samjhtay hein ..

aur jahaan taak ye kay chand par Allah aur Rasool (SAW) ka naam tu is kay baray main mujhay pehlay tu nahi pata tha app nay new info dee hai..
Posted 28 Mar 2005

those signs means ke qayamat kareeb hai...logoon ko sudhar jana chahiyey
Posted 28 Mar 2005

Ashii says
"logon ko darane liye"
yar yehi to me ne bhi kaha na,,,, k aise to kafiron aur mushrikon ko daraya jata tha
Khuda k azaab aur kehr se

chaand wala bhi hai na yar aik,, yahin jb pe dekha tha me ne,,,,,,,,








ather yarrr,,,
ya logon ko sirf iss liye sudharna chaiye k kayamat nazdeek hai ??
Qayamat k nazdeek hone ka yakeen yeh cheezein dekh k nahi hota
balke iss jahalat aur behissi ko dekh k hota hai
Posted 28 Mar 2005

friend_16 says
kuch logoon ka sayid yahi tareeqa hai samjhnay ka .. coz har kisi ka apna style hota hai samjhanay ka .. tu kuch logoon ko laga ho ga kay yoon batana say sayid loog samaj jain .. coz hamaray deen ki tableeghtu har tarhaan say hoo he rahee hai ..

Sall said:

Quran pak mei aaya hai k gumrah aur kafir/munafiq kaum paighambron se nishaniyan mangti thi,,, aur unn nishaniyon k baad bhi unn pe jo asar hota tha woh temporary hota tha......
kya hum unn logon mei se hein ??



jis jis koum par nishaani ayee aur unhon nay na maana tu phir un par azaab aya hai .. coz aik supernatural cheez deekh ker bhee loog emaan na lain tu phir wo tu Allah kay gazb ko dawat daina hai .. aur ye nishani is liay bhee mangtay hein coz ye emaan laana nahi chahtay ye sirf aik bahana hota hai aur agar nishani aa bhee jatee hai tu kyun kay pehlay say hee unhoon nay soocha hota hai kay ye aik bahana tha phir bhee wo emaan nahi laatay ..
Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ki umaat par as such koi mojza ya nishani nahi aiyee jaisay aur Rasooloon aur Paighbaroon par aiyee .. kyun kay hum akhri ummaat hein aur hum nay is tarhaan nahi jhutlaya apnay nabi ko jis tarhaan pehlee umaat nay jhutalaya .. tu hum par Allah ka azaab aa sakta hai par is tarhaan nahi kay jaisay pehlee umaat par aya kay un ka naam-o-nishaan taak mitt gia..
tu hum un ko apnay say kaisay say compare karein? apna question modify karein Sall...
Posted 31 Mar 2005

Ashii says
yar,, im not saying k hum Khuda na khasta kafir hein,,

im not giving my opinion,,, but abhi tsunami ko sab ne Allah ka azaab kaha,,, unn area mei majority muslims ki thi na......
how can u say that hamari ummat pe khuda ka azaab nahi aa sakta ??


han naam o nishan mit jana aik aur baat hai,,, it s an extend,, to kya hum uss hadd tak burai phel jaane ka aur gumrah ho jaane ka intzar kar rahe hein ??




Allah miyan k wojood ki nishaniyan dikha k darana mujhe kuch ajeeb sa lagta hai,,, coz khuda k wujood ko maan lene liye aik darakht ka structure dekh lena hi kafi hai,,
aur jinhon ne nahi maan'na unhon ne chaand k do tukre hote dekhe tab bhi nahi mana
hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Allah knows better...............
Posted 01 Apr 2005

Badal says
topic kuch tha aur kahaan say kahaan chala gya.

Sall ka question theek tha, kisi cheez par Allah ka naam likha hona, kisi structure ka Kalmay ki tarah hona etc ye Allah ki existance proove karnay kay liye kafi nahi.

SALL said:

to phir isss sab ka kya matlab hai ??
Y we keep looking for signs to prove Allah's existance ??
kya humein Khuda ki zaat k hone pe koi shak hai ??



Allah apni existence [roove karnay kay liye khud tu samnay nahi ayega na, usnay insaan ko akal di hai isi liye kay wo Allah ko pehchan sakay, aur pehchanay ga Allah kay signs say hi, warna aur kia rasta ho ga pehchan ka? laikin wo signs aisay nahi hain like Allah ka naam, Kalma waghaira kaheen likha hona.

jin nations ko clear cut signs dikhaye gaey, aur phir bhi unhoon nay inkaar kiya tu unka tabah hona yakeeni tha. f16 ka kehna theek hai kay humain aisay signs nahi diye gaye takay kaheen hum bhi inkaar kar kay Allah kay azaab kay haqdaar na ban jain, kuch muajzat hain humaray Nabi kay bhi like chaand ka 2 turay hona, laikin wo sab kay liye nahi tha, wo dekhnay walay bhi kam hi log thay.

Allah nay Quran main bhi buhat jaga examples di hain aisi aur kaha kay in main logoon kay liye nishaniyaan hain. jaisay plants ka banna, fruits, flowers, aur sab say bari nishani insaan ka apna wajood.

isi modern era ki example le lain, artificial satellites insaan nay zameen kay gird orbits main choray hain, tu ye jo thousands of years say itnay satellites hain kainaat main unhain kis nay banaey, jab insaan aik chooti si kashti khud ba khud bannay ka tasavvur nahi kar sakta tu ye itnay baray satellites kaisay ban gaey. aur phir ye apnay orbits main continuously move kar rahay hain, artificial satellites ko agar kuch din control na kiya jaey tu ye orbits say bahir chalay jatay hain, tu doosray satellites ko control karnay wala bhi tu koi hai na.

sooraj aur chaand ki examples tu Quran main hain, aur bhi buhat si hain, magar insaan phir bhi samajhta nahi.
Posted 01 Apr 2005

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