Paki Gals VRS Paki-Brit Gals

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Blue Oasis

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I was watching a channel 4 documentary about a Pakistani guy born and bred and London who was having an arranged marriage with his cousin in Pakistan, a girl he’s never seen.

Well in it he asked the views of other guys about marrying a girl from back home instead of their counterparts - a Pakistani girl born and bred in UK. This is what the guys had to say:

They prefer girls from Pakistan because they are obedient and loyal, whereas Pakistani girls in UK are taught independence from the start; education gives independence and because the education in Pakistan is limited for girls, so is their independence.

Instantly after hearing this I was very irritated and offended, but after thinking about it for a moment, I realized he was right. I’m one of those Pakistani girls bred in London; I am very independent and know for a fact that I wouldn’t take any of this ‘behave-submissive-to-your-husband’ crap.

Plus I’m proud of the way I am and shouldn’t feel anything less, it’s these English-Desi boys who want to dominate and rule over their wives who should be ashamed of themselves because they can’t handle a wife who is as/or more educated than them a wife who drives and works – since it makes them feel insecure.

We independent Pakistani women are too good for them but it’s sad of these boys to exploit a dependant and naïve wife straight from Pakistan.
Posted 23 Nov 2005

ashkhan says
y dont some1 ask the bys r they actually worth an even human being. NOOOOOOO. DIDNT THINK SO. i hate prejudiced men who dont look at themselves sleepin around with girls but wan a wife they can control. how can u get a clean slate if the blackboard is black.
Posted 23 Nov 2005

Desi_MC says
desi gals in europe r
me don wana say........
they all outta bonds....

sowieeee i aint pointin at no 1....

Posted 23 Nov 2005

maryam. says
FOR DESI MC

out of bounds?!
out of bounds!!

not all desi-american/brit girls are out of bounds...
in fact, as far as i'm concerned a great amount of of the population of desi-american/brit girls are very well in tune with their culture and act as descent (IF NOT BETTER) as pakistani-born girls!! i have seen a lot of the crap that goes on in pakistan...and all i have to say about it is that a lot of paki-born girls are not as angelic as they seem.. as far as i'm concerned, judging from your club hopping getting drunk persona (i don't know if you're really like that or just like to act that way online cuz you think it gives you a cool edge or something), i think you're way out of bounds.

PLEASE DON'T STEREOTYPE EVERY PAKI-AMERICAN/BRIT GIRL LIKE THAT. Thanks.

NOTE: This post was not meant to intentionally hurt desi mc in anyway. I was just bringing up a point, and if in fact this post did in some way hurt desi mc, my apologies.
Posted 23 Nov 2005

maryam. says
and i know you weren't pointing at anyone in particulur but when you said "they all outta bonds...." it seemed like you were generalizing every paki-american/brit girl in such a manner.
Posted 23 Nov 2005

Blue Oasis says
ashkhan said:

y dont some1 ask the bys r they actually worth an even human being. NOOOOOOO. DIDNT THINK SO. i hate prejudiced men who dont look at themselves sleepin around with girls but wan a wife they can control. how can u get a clean slate if the blackboard is black.



Exactly, they date and sleep around, but want to marry a girl who's never even seen a guy!

To be fair though, not all of are like that, you find the rare decent boy now and again.
Posted 23 Nov 2005

Blue Oasis says
Desi_MC said:

desi gals in europe r
me don wana say........
they all outta bonds....

sowieeee i aint pointin at no 1....



The same thing can be said about Desi boys in europe.
Posted 23 Nov 2005

Blue Oasis says
maryam. said:

FOR DESI MC

out of bounds?!
out of bounds!!

not all desi-american/brit girls are out of bounds...
in fact, as far as i'm concerned a great amount of of the population of desi-american/brit girls are very well in tune with their culture and act as descent (IF NOT BETTER) as pakistani-born girls!! i have seen a lot of the crap that goes on in pakistan...and all i have to say about it is that a lot of paki-born girls are not as angelic as they seem.. as far as i'm concerned, judging from your club hopping getting drunk persona (i don't know if you're really like that or just like to act that way online cuz you think it gives you a cool edge or something), i think you're way out of bounds.

PLEASE DON'T STEREOTYPE EVERY PAKI-AMERICAN/BRIT GIRL LIKE THAT. Thanks.

NOTE: This post was not meant to intentionally hurt desi mc in anyway. I was just bringing up a point, and if in fact this post did in some way hurt desi mc, my apologies.



Wow Maryam, that was deep, you are 100% right, good and bad girls are everywhere. I think Pakistani girls living overseas value their culture more than girls in Pakistan because everyone knows you value and respect something more when you don't have it.
Posted 23 Nov 2005

Ashii says
vvvv true
ash khan, chand, maryam r abs right


desi
it seems u know vv well european desi galz
aik nazar apne gireban mei bhi...
Posted 24 Nov 2005

BadShaH1 says
Most desi people take marriage as a whole family affair rather than a relation bw two people.So the boys think that a paki bred gal would be able to cope with his family more easily n be happy n make them happy.

Thats the reason near me.

well see weve bcome so independent that we dont even like the idea of marriage.We are engulfed in our own tentions so much we cant handle any more.
Posted 24 Nov 2005

BadShaH1 says
we keep playin the blame game on each other. we refuse to submitt a lil to others.Weve bcome selfish.

the world is bcoming so confusing.
Posted 24 Nov 2005

Desi_MC says
maryam. said:

FOR DESI MC

out of bounds?!
out of bounds!!

not all desi-american/brit girls are out of bounds...
in fact, as far as i'm concerned a great amount of of the population of desi-american/brit girls are very well in tune with their culture and act as descent (IF NOT BETTER) as pakistani-born girls!! i have seen a lot of the crap that goes on in pakistan...and all i have to say about it is that a lot of paki-born girls are not as angelic as they seem.. as far as i'm concerned, judging from your club hopping getting drunk persona (i don't know if you're really like that or just like to act that way online cuz you think it gives you a cool edge or something), i think you're way out of bounds.

PLEASE DON'T STEREOTYPE EVERY PAKI-AMERICAN/BRIT GIRL LIKE THAT. Thanks.

NOTE: This post was not meant to intentionally hurt desi mc in anyway. I was just bringing up a point, and if in fact this post did in some way hurt desi mc, my apologies.



touchy
but u prolly need to take a deep look aroun ur desi community---- n c wat those desi gals r doin'...
well atleast 95% desi gals in denmark r
n situation in uk is more or less same...

apologize accepted....

n btw i don act like which im not...
clubin, drinkin, goin out... music is desi mc.....

don b so quick to judge ppl ova a forum...

n its tru im way out of bounds.... way too much.... i knw... n i admit it....

now get ur self a cold bicardi lemon....

safe

peace

Posted 24 Nov 2005

pak brits girls
Posted 24 Nov 2005

Desi_MC says
Ali G comes on channel 4
Posted 24 Nov 2005

Blue Oasis says
The real issue is the behaviour and thinking of the majority of Desi boys in London, to defend them you're exaggerating the activities of Desi Brit girls.

I said before good and bad people are everywhere, and I'm not really concerned about the moral values of Desi people in this topic, I'm pointing out the backward and oppressive thinking that some Desi Brit boys have.

These boys know they can't dominate a girl from the UK so instead of getting into a domestic violence case they are marrying girls who will be indimidated by them because they are utterly dependant on their husbands.
Posted 24 Nov 2005

well said chandra
Posted 24 Nov 2005

Blue Oasis says
BadShaH1 said:

Most desi people take marriage as a whole family affair rather than a relation bw two people.So the boys think that a paki bred gal would be able to cope with his family more easily n be happy n make them happy.

Thats the reason near me.

well see weve bcome so independent that we dont even like the idea of marriage.We are engulfed in our own tentions so much we cant handle any more.



Yes some boys are under the impression that girls from back home have better family values than Desi-Brit women. That's not true, what it is that girls from back home tend to allow their in-laws to boss them around more than a Desi-Brit girl will. A girl who takes harrasssment without complaining and lives as a servant is considered an ideal wife. A typical Desi-Brit girl won't take any of that and that's why their Pakistani conterparts are preffered.






Posted 24 Nov 2005

Blue Oasis says
Thank you SRK    and I have to say that you are a good example of a very decent Desi-European guy, I know you will treat your wife with a lot of love and respect
Posted 24 Nov 2005

THANX
Posted 24 Nov 2005

Desi_MC says
lol
lol
Posted 24 Nov 2005

I see it more of a clash of cultures.

divorce rates are rising at an alarming rate in pak and among couples of paki origin. Family break-ups due to incompatible spousal match-up and intolerance to minor issues taking tolls off young couples. Rebellious and self-centered attitudes of girls and overly controlling attitude of boys are at clash. Onez seeking complete independence while otherz pressing for domination. Well, this trend will have to find a happy medium sooner than later. Continutation of this clash will give rise to many social ills. Because younger generations will opt for alternatives which might be even more painful.

There exists a very balanced approach to this problem. Unfortunately, both parties tend to stay away from trying to find alternatives to it when there isn't one. Soul searching and reestablishing connection with the roots may reinvigorate tht dying balance.
Posted 29 Nov 2005

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