well im not hindu and i can only thnx Allah that he made me belong to a muslim family,, so muslim paida hone mei mera koi kamal nahi


now wot i think abt hinduisme,, hmmmm nothing much
im against their cast system even tho we muslims believe and practice it
rahi baat devi/devtaon ki,, i ve nothing to say against it

Molana Asrar once talked abt the logic of prosterning infront of statues,,
according to hindu scholars hindu "dheyan" k liye buut k agay jhukte hein bilkul jaise muslims ka "dheyan" kibla ki taraf hota hai,, hijr e aswad is a stone too

they beleiev in ishwar and we beleive in Allah,, we believe in angels and prophets and they beleive in devi/devta (called bhagwan ka avtar)
woh log paise k liye laxmi devi k agay jhukte hein,,, we do the same but we dont name it a devi,,

aik "jahil" hindu aur muslim mei koi fark nahi hai
han Islam ar hinduism mei bohot fark hai
baat sirf imaan, yakeen aur niyyat ki hai
its said that RAM may b a prophet, same is said abt Buddha, agar uss ko maane waale galt ho gae to unn mei hum mei koi fark nahi coz we ve changed our religion too

i have a translation of Ramayan but never get time to read it

Thats a good way of looking at it I suppose

Muslim hoo ya hindu koyii bi hooo
humain yay hi hukam haii us kay sath acha rawaiya rukhoo.
laken jub jaan maal ya islam ka masla ay to peachy na hatoo

SALL:

well im not hindu and i can only thnx Allah that he made me belong to a muslim family,, so muslim paida hone mei mera koi kamal nahi


now wot i think abt hinduisme,, hmmmm nothing much
im against their cast system even tho we muslims believe and practice it
rahi baat devi/devtaon ki,, i ve nothing to say against it

Molana Asrar once talked abt the logic of prosterning infront of statues,,
according to hindu scholars hindu "dheyan" k liye buut k agay jhukte hein bilkul jaise muslims ka "dheyan" kibla ki taraf hota hai,, hijr e aswad is a stone too

they beleiev in ishwar and we beleive in Allah,, we believe in angels and prophets and they beleive in devi/devta (called bhagwan ka avtar)
woh log paise k liye laxmi devi k agay jhukte hein,,, we do the same but we dont name it a devi,,

aik "jahil" hindu aur muslim mei koi fark nahi hai
han Islam ar hinduism mei bohot fark hai
baat sirf imaan, yakeen aur niyyat ki hai
its said that RAM may b a prophet, same is said abt Buddha, agar uss ko maane waale galt ho gae to unn mei hum mei koi fark nahi coz we ve changed our religion too

i have a translation of Ramayan but never get time to read it

Sall, Sall, Sall...... I completely, totally, and absolutely disagree with your equating Islam with Hinduism or Muslims with Hindus.
Hindu religion is a total opposite of monotheism. A believer believes and bows in front of Allah alone with no need for any interpreter or middle-man. A muslim knows that Allah alone can provide for needs and wants of every creature. There is just no room for another deity. No body bows or prostrate to "Hijr ul Aswad". People kiss it because the prophet of Allah did and was ordered by Allah. Allah ordered none other stones to be kissed, let alone bowing or prostrating to it and asking it to provide anything. Anyone who takes Hijrul Aswad or kabaa itself as divine or being able to provide anything, are no less than mushrik.

Allah says about those beliving in gods of stone and such earthly materialthat those "humans and their stone (gods) will become the fuel of the hell fire.)

In another place, Allah swt draws parables between believers and mushrikeen when he asks, do people who can see and blinds are equal", He asks, "those who can hear and deaf are equal?" He asks, are people of paradise and people of hell fire are the same? Then He says, "people of the pradise are those who have succeeded and placed high".

Ram, Buddha ... whoever they were and whatever was their message then, it contradicts the basic tenets of Islam and the islamic belief system, i.e, unity of God.

Islam has not changed and it still is in its original form, i.e pillars of faith, and articles of belief are intact as they were the first day.

Likewise, teachings of Moses and Jesus were very similar to those of prophet Mohammed, but the change in those religions were fundamental and they lost their basic ingedients. If anything closer to Islam are the people of the book. Hinduism is a total opposite of it. Islam was sent to protect people from hell fire whose fuel would be the people and the stones with which they made their own gods.

Daydreamer:

Hinduism, What do you think of it?

Any Hindus here

As humans, I respect them and if they are my neighbors, I will give them their rights just as Islam teaches me. I don't believe in anything they believe or celebrate anything they celebrate, but that doesn't mean I disrespect them. I will be friendly with them even when they are not friendly with me, but I will stand firm on my belief.

SD SD SD
no objection,,, my answer was totaly out of topic
but as dd accepted it, and no one said a word hum bhi chup ho gae


topic was abt hinduism and i talked abt hindus and muslims,, oupssss
i know real islam has nothing in common with hinduism,, but my point was since u follow Islam without any "good niyat" or without understanding it u r not different from a hindu or christian or wotever
(i said it in my prev post)

and shirk,,,, hmmmmm
i recently "heard" a strange definition of shirk,, something which s always been in my mind but when a scholar explained it became more clear
we r allll wrong yarrrrrr,, we r all wrong




back to the topic which was HINDUISM

sorry, but you are wrong again. A worst believer is better than a pagan or a disbeliever. And about intentions, we don't know what's in the heart; so lets not judge intentions.

strange definition of Shirk...hmmmm seems like strange things get your attention very quickly. would you mind sharing that definition with us

Smooth_daddy:

sorry, but you are wrong again. A worst believer is better than a pagan or a disbeliever.

i can never ever understand this logic
i discussed it several times but it seems im stuck.........
the worst beleiver ????????????? wot is a worst beleiver ?????????
a beleiver can go/do wrong but usse bhi maafi tab milti hai jab woh seedhe raste pe aa k sache dil se yakeen kare Allah ki zaat pe,, sirf Khuda KO nahi Khuda KI bhi maane

Smooth_daddy:

And about intentions, we don't know what's in the heart; so lets not judge intentions.

hmmm,,, sahi
then we shd not judge the intentions of pagans,, kya pata dil mei woh bhi imaan rakhte hon

Smooth_daddy:

strange definition of Shirk...hmmmm seems like strange things get your attention very quickly. would you mind sharing that definition with us

bhai jii,,, mazak nahi ura'ain
well i said "strange" but its something obvious for me,, i always knew it,, strange for "others" coz they never beleived me and it was the first time i found the prove in Quran pak

Surah Kahaf, ayat 32-42
read ayat 42 carefuly and try to link it with the rest
(there must b other ayat or surah but im not a scholar, a single ayat or surah's understanding require months)

Muslim paida ho jana apni jaga,,, par Khuda woh hota hai jiss pe aap sahi maane mei "takiya" karte hein,, jab aap ki sari umeed sari koshish aur zindagi ki direction kissi aur taraf ho to ur real GOD is that thing

this is wot i beleive