.. Wazeeeeefa ..

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Ashii

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wazeefa ulta kaise hota hai
aur kyun hota hai






plz take this topic seriously
i simply wanna know wot does it mean
"wazeefa ulta ho jana"
Posted 15 Nov 2006

Barsaat says
seriouch otay (khikhi)

Ashi mujhe PAKKI bat to nahin malom... but
jahan tak pata hay to ( suni-sunai)kay... logon ka aisa kahnay say matlab hota hay k
un say wazeefa karnay main koi GHALTI ho gai hay ( yani
jaisa karna chahiyay tha nahin kar paey)
to "ASAR" ulta ho gay

ait min ehhh i think wo taweez ulta ho gaya k baray main boltay hain lo ji m confused.
but i think same hi matlab hota hoga is say bi :D
Posted 15 Nov 2006

sun_shine says
i will ask my friend then i will tell you
tomorrow inshallah
Posted 16 Nov 2006

sall i think aapne kal news parhi hai kal...tabhi topic banaya right?
Posted 16 Nov 2006

javad says
salloo ji..
hmm wazifa ullta hona..kuch exact to nahi kah sakta magar ye wo wazifay nahi hotay jo aam tor par ghar main hum karty hain exmpl Rizq barhany ka wazifa etc etc..
ye wo wazifay hotay hain jo Log jinnat ko kabo karny k liye karty hain.

aur ye ulat kion hotay hain to esay kisi amal main zara si ghalti bhi sab kuch ultaa kar deti hai.


agay God knows better.
Posted 17 Nov 2006

nikama says
there is something called masnoon wazaif....that were performed by the holy prophet and his companions and there are authentic ahadees to support them...like the 33 times SUBHANALLAH and ALHAMDOLILLAH and 34 times ALLAHOAKBAR after every prayer and the recitation of some soorahs and kalmas before going to sleep.these masnoon wazaif have no negative effect whatsoever and every muslim can recite them.
now there are some wazaif that were suggested by some sufis and aulias etc.as we all know there are many sipiritual groups in islam like CHISHTIA,QADRIA,AZEEMIA etc.and each group follows its own wazaif,they are for one not a part of sharia they are just like mantras suggested by the hindu yogis and budhist monks except that many of these wazaif are derived from QURAN.these have some positive as well as negative effects and if not performed under the supervision of some instructor PEER or MURSHID....these wazaif can prove to be quite dangerous many lose their sanity some start experiencing halucinations etc.
and then there is ofcourse KALA ILM
but one thing i woould like to say is that we should follow only what is suggested by the QURAN and SUNNAH and PRAYER is the best wazeefa for all muslims.
ONE THING MORE
tassawf or sipiritualism is desirable only as long as it remains in the limits of SHARIA,otherwise it is just JAHALAT and nothing else
Posted 17 Nov 2006

Ashii says
thnxxxx alllll


balich
taweez nahi wazeefa ki hi baat hai,, like a person use to read a lot waza'if aur uss ka wazeefe ulte ho gae



konsi news athar ??


hmmm,, javad
wazeefe ka reason to nahi pata mujhe k kyun kiya gaya
par kam se kam jinn ko kabu karne k liye nahi tha




thats wot i was talking abt nikama
aise wazaif jiss se (shayad koi galti ho jaane ki waja se) insan ka dimag thikane nahi rehta,, halucinations wagera hone lagti hein
i totaly agree k aise kaam mei parne ki zaroorat hi nahi jo hamare bass se bahir ho,, seedhe seedhe fara'iz to poore hote nahi hum se aur chal parte hein bohot door ki khojne
Posted 20 Nov 2006

Ashii says
hmmmmmmm,,,
now the reason for this topic
recently a person (apparently not having any big pb in her life) comitted suscide,,,, ppl who knew her well said that "unn k waza'if ka koi ulta asar ho gaya tha"
ajeeb ajeeb batein karti thi, she use to see 'things'

that person went to pak abt 8/9 months ago,, and there she joined some madrisa and after her return to france she became vv vvv religious
zehni halat kuch maheene se kharab honi shuru hui
waza'if ko "seedha" karne liye in other words unn ka ilaj karne liye damm wagera karwae gae,,, par koi zyada faeda nahi hua,, and she ended up like that




now the thing is
I believe that she simply was suffering from a psychological disorder... aisi halat mei jab insab koi sahara chahta hai unhein mazhab se iss hadd tak lagao hua k unhon ne khud ko bilkul akela kar liya,, same with her family and friends who left her alone
ab aap jiss taraf zyada socho ge khyalat ya halucination bhi ussi type ki a'ain gi,, jannat, dozakh, farishte, kabooliyat, bakhshish............

jiss ki zindagi jitni hoti hai woh utna hi jeeta hai,, par kissi beemar ko hum sirf iss liye uss k haal pe nahi chor dete
to unhein kyun seriously nahi liya gaya
logon ko abhiii tak yeh samajh nahi i k unn ka ilaj shayd ho sakta tha,, aik jaan shayad bach sakti thi
apne dil ki tasali k liye sab unn ko koi "pohonchi hui hasti" samajh rahe hein (i hope she was,, achi to woh wakai bohot thi)


i want to say just onnnne thing
if u guys know a person jisse koi aisi choti si bhi pb ho, jo hadd se zyada religious ya kissi bhi cheez mei extremist hone lage
akela rehne lage, logon se katrane lage,, to plzzzzzzz usse pagal ya phir pohoncha hua keh k akela nahi karo
dont take these things so lightly.... its not coz a person is vvv religious k usse koi jismani ya zehni bemari nahi ho sakti

basssssssss...
aur kuch nahi kehna abhi
Posted 20 Nov 2006

it happend in paris aish,,,the day you made this topic...she read too much wazeefa...she was gone mad..comite suicide
Posted 20 Nov 2006

Ashii says
im talking abt the same woman (i didnt know news mei bhi aaya hai)
my family knows her for like last 20 yrs,, but we were not in contact for 2/3 yrs
Posted 20 Nov 2006

jang newpaper main tha pehle page par
Posted 21 Nov 2006

Barsaat says
oh

waisay real bat to ALLAH hi jantay hain...k wo khudkushi thi ya wazeefay ta ulta asar...

pata nahin abhi samajh nahin a rahi kia kahon
Posted 22 Nov 2006

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