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 (John 1:14)

We must note - first of all - that these words mentioned in the Gospel of John
are not the words of “Christ,” but rather the words of “John.” Christ did not
say such words at all.


Christ never said that He was the Word


With extensive study and knowledge, we will find that they are the words of a
Jewish person named (Philo of Alexandria) (20 BC - 40 AD) who lived in the
Hellenistic era in Alexandria.
He was a philosopher and thinker who was influenced by Greek philosophy.


It is known that John wrote his Gospel after the death of Philo and borrowed
the term from him.the Word

Then if the Word is God and the Word became flesh, this means God becoming
flesh, and this is a change in God, and their book says 6 “I the Lord do not
change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. [Malachi 3:6]


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Q & A ~ John 1:1~ In The Beginning Was The Word And The Word Was With God
Dr.Zakir Naik #zakirnaik 

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what is john 1 1

 
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Posted 09 Apr 2025

tiger5 says
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*****(Thecrucifixion of Christ is pure fantasy) %%%% (A) 


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In the Holy Qur’an, God denied thecrucifixion of Christ: 

Surah an-Nisa

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157. And fortheir saying, “We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of
Allah.” In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it
appeared to them as if they did. Those who differ about him are in doubt about
it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. They
certainly did not kill him. 

158. But Allahraised him up to Himself. Allah is Mighty and Wise. 

Islam says: (Jesus, peace be upon him,was neither killed nor crucified) ----  

The most common belief amongChristians is that Jesus was crucified and died. 

But the question is: 


Who said that Jesus was crucified anddied, and that this actually happened? 


In fact, when we look at the verses 


that Christians use to prove thisbelief, we find that 95% of these verses are from Paul's letters.

The verses used to prove this beliefare very few from the Gospels,


which raises a question mark abouttheir source. 

And whether Jesus really said that hewould die on the cross? 

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Let us examine together and examinethis compelling evidence 

of the contradiction between theirbeliefs and the Bible: 


1 - At themoment of the Roman soldiers' approaching crucifixion, 


Christ withdrew to himself in the Garden of Gethsemane and prayed to God the Father. 


He called upon Him and begged Him tosave him from this ordeal. 


From this, we can see that crucifixion 


was not the true purpose of Christ'spresence on earth. 


Otherwise, He would have surrenderedto crucifixion without resistance or seeking God's help. 


(Luke 22:42): 


(“Father, ifyou are willing, please take this cup of suffering away from me.”") 


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2 - None ofChrist's followers were present at Christ's crucifixion, 


except for a few women. 


In fact, some accounts in the Gospelscast doubt on their presence there. 


This doubt comes from Christianscholars themselves, 


based on the testimony of witnesses.So what does it tell us? 


They can't even agree on what Jesuswas wearing, drinking, doing, or saying at the time of the crucifixion. 


Matthew 27:28 tells us: 


The Roman soldiers dressed Jesus in ascarlet robe. 


(They strippedHim and put a scarlet robe on Him..) 


John 19:2 says: 


 (and dressed Him in apurple robe.)  ------------ 


Matthew 27:34 says: 


(The Romansgave Jesus sour wine mixed with gall.) 


Mark 15:23 says: (It was mixed withmyrrh.) 

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Mark 15:25 tells us: (Jesus wascrucified before the third hour.) 


But John 19:14-15 says: 


It was about the sixth hour. 

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Luke 23:46 says that Jesus' last wordswere "Father, into your hands I commend my spirit." 


But John 19:30 says they were "Itis finished!" 


Now, wait a minute. 

Jesus's righteous followers would haveclung to his every word in his final days. 


On the other hand, Mark 14:50 tells usthat all the disciples left Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane.  

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Look with me at what God says aboutyou in the Holy Qur'an: 


(((82. Youwill find the most hostile towards the believers to be the Jews and those who
associate. And you will find the nearest in affection towards the believers to
be those who say, “We are Christians.” That is because among them are priests
and pastors, and they are not arrogant. 


83. And whenthey hear what was revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing
with tears, because of the truth they recognize. They say, “Our Lord, we have
believed, so count us among the witnesses.”.") 


O Allah, guide Your lost servants. OAllah, Amen. 


   

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Posted 18 Apr 2025

tiger5 says
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*****(The crucifixion of Christ is pure fantasy) %%%% (B)

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In the Holy Qur’an, God denied the crucifixion of Christ:

Surah an-Nisa'
157. And for their saying, “We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.

158. But Allah raised him up to Himself. Allah is Mighty and Wise.

Islam says: (Jesus, peace be upon him, was neither killed nor crucified)

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The most common belief among Christians is that Jesus was crucified and died.

But the question is:

Who said that Jesus was crucified and died, and that this actually happened?

In fact, when we look at the verses

that Christians use to prove this belief, we find that 95% of these verses are from Paul's letters.

The verses used to prove this belief are very few from the Gospels,

which raises a question mark about their source.

And whether Jesus really said that he would die on the cross?


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Let us examine together and examine this compelling evidence

of the contradiction between their beliefs and the Bible:

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3—Jesus Himself Denied the Crucifixion

And their inability to crucify and kill Him, and God the Father's response to His supplication

In three places:

A—When He referred to His story of the Roman soldiers' torture of Him

and His hiding from them in the tomb while wounded

Like the story of the Prophet Jonah when he was alive in the belly of the whale

(Matthew 12:40):

( 40 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth)


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B—When Mary Magdalene came and found the tombstone out of place,

She wanted to touch Christ to reassure herself that He was alive.

He was severely wounded from the torture.

Here He reassured her that He had not died and was merely hiding.

(John 20:17):

(Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father..)


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C— Jesus entered upon his disciples, and they were terrified of him and thought he had died.

He said to them, "Whoever enters upon them is a spirit, for a spirit does not eat or drink."

He reassured them, and had them touch him, and ate some of their food with them.

((Luke 24:39-43)):

( 39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”

40 When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet.

41 And while they still did not believe it because of joy and amazement, he asked them, “Do you have anything here to eat?”

42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish,

43 and he took it and ate it in their presence.)


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4—This is conclusive evidence of Christ's ascension, which is Living

(John 20:17):

(Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God..")


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(Psalm 91)

8
You will only observe with your eyes
and see the punishment of the wicked.

9
If you say, “The Lord is my refuge,”
and you make the Most High your dwelling,
10
no harm will overtake you,
no disaster will come near your tent.
11
For he will command his angels concerning you
to guard you in all your ways;
12
they will lift you up in their hands,
so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.
13
You will tread on the lion and the cobra;
you will trample the great lion and the serpent.

14
“Because he[b] loves me,” says the Lord, “I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name.
15
He will call on me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him.
16
With long life I will satisfy him
and show him my salvation.”


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This is a resounding slap in the face to all who claim that Christ was crucified.

I urge every Christian to carefully study your Bible.

And do not believe the church's lies about Christ.

Because the remaining authentic verses in the Bible

are those that agree with the Qur'an

and contradict the priests' superstitions and falsehoods.


Look with me at what God says about you in the Holy Qur'an:

(((82. You will find the most hostile towards the believers to be the Jews and those who associate. And you will find the nearest in affection towards the believers to be those who say, “We are Christians.” That is because among them are priests and pastors, and they are not arrogant.


83. And when they hear what was revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears, because of the truth they recognize. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so count us among the witnesses.”.")


O Allah, guide Your lost servants. O Allah, Amen.

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Posted 28 Apr 2025

tiger5 says
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*****(The crucifixion of Christ is pure fantasy) %%%% ( C )


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In the Holy Qur’an, God denied the crucifixion of Christ:
Surah an-Nisa'
157. And for their saying, “We have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.” In fact, they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them as if they did. Those who differ about him are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it, except the following of assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.

158. But Allah raised him up to Himself. Allah is Mighty and Wise.

Islam says: (Jesus, peace be upon him, was neither killed nor crucified)

-----

The most common belief among Christians is that Jesus was crucified and died.

But the question is:

Who said that Jesus was crucified and died, and that this actually happened?

In fact, when we look at the verses

that Christians use to prove this belief, we find that 95% of these verses are from Paul's letters.

The verses used to prove this belief are very few from the Gospels,

which raises a question mark about their source.

And whether Jesus really said that he would die on the cross?

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Let us examine together and examine this compelling evidence

that their belief contradicts the Bible:

5-- Christ was not crucified

This statement in the Bible is sufficient to prove that he was not crucified.

In order for him to be crucified, thick iron nails had to be driven through his hands and feet.

This never happened to Jesus, peace be upon him.

Not a single bone of Jesus's was broken.

A. In John 19:36:

36 "For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: "Not one of his bones will be broken."

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6. Before Jesus' crucifixion, peace be upon him,

God saved him, and he fled and disappeared from their midst.

A. In John 8:59:

59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

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B. In John 10:39:

"Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.

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7-- This is another compelling proof of the ascension of Christ while he was alive.

God raised Christ, peace be upon him, to heaven.

He protected him from the plots and scheming of the Jews, so they could not crucify him.

In Acts 1:10-11:


10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them.

11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”


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This is exactly what the Messenger of allah mohammed, peace be upon him, said:

(But at that very moment God will send the Messiah son of Mary who will descend at the white minaret in the east of Damascus wearing two garments dyed with saffron and placing his hands on the wings of two angels. When he lowers his head, it will drip and when he raises it beads like pearls will scatter from it. )

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Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “By Allah, the son of Mary will descend as a just ruler. He will abolish the cross, kill the swine, and annul the tribute, but he will leave the she-camel such that no one collects from it. He will cause rancor, hatred, and envy to disappear, and he will call people to give their wealth in charity but no one will need it.”

Source: S?ah?i¯h? Muslim 155

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This is a resounding slap in the face to all who claim that Christ was crucified.

I ask every Christian to carefully study your Bible.

And do not believe the lies of the Church about Christ.

Because the remaining authentic verses in the Bible

are the ones that agree with the Qur'an

and contradict the myths of the priests and refute them.

Look with me at what God says about you in the Holy Qur'an:

(((((82. You will find the most hostile towards the believers to be the Jews and those who associate. And you will find the nearest in affection towards the believers to be those who say, “We are Christians.” That is because among them are priests and pastors, and they are not arrogant.

83. And when they hear what was revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears, because of the truth they recognize. They say, “Our Lord, we have believed, so count us among the witnesses.”.")

O Allah, guide Your lost servants. O Allah, Amen.

 

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Posted 05 May 2025

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illogical and emotional words more than realism,

Only in your own spiritual way will everyone remain on the path of darkness and falsehood

Without right religious books, everyone will follow their whims


- Buddhists believe that Buddha is the Son of God, the Savior of humanity
from its tragedies and pains, and that He bears their sins for them.

Hinduism is considered a polytheistic religion, as it recognizes the
existence of about 330 million gods, but there is only one god above
these gods, which is the Brahma


Christianity worships the Prophet Jesus Christ as God or the Son of God, and He is the Savior of humanity
from its tragedies and pains, and that He bears their sins for them.

The Jews worship God, but with attributes that are not worthy of God’s greatness, and they say that Uzair is the son of God.

They are all spiritual and do not care about their books, so do we know who is the true God or the true religion through them?

Your words are wrong, they refute the truth and plunge people into misguidance


There must be correct scientific and historical evidence for religious books,
then spirituality comes on a disciplined basis after knowing the true
God


It is not just an illusory spirituality that depends on the whims and desires of humans, and everyone does what they like and
worships what they like


As I said before, spirituality is not enough to understand the Bible

And the words of the Prophet Isa, peace be upon him

Because in your book there are verses that contradict each other
And change, scrape and delete

This can never be the book of God

Christ cannot command wine, usury, gambling, fornication, swine, incest, and the fornication of the prophets.

So I don't care about some verses without others
And pay attention to the context of the verses and the whole story,


I am interested in studying the whole Bible with the mentality of neutral Christian scholars

And the mentality of the Muslim who has the Qur’an, which has not changed since 1400 years,

Because the Qur’an is the dominant and dominant over the previous books to correct them

The Qur’an is not the same as the Bible There is no comparison at all
The Qur’an has no problems, accusations, falsehoods and suspicions without real and impartial scientific study

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Posted 10 May 2025

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Posted 19 May 2025

tiger5 says
 
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Some Christians claim that pigs are not forbidden inChristianity, and they deduce this with flimsy evidence
 

It’s not what goes into your mouth that defiles you; youare defiled by the words that come out of your mouth.”
((Matthew 15:11?)
 

In fact, this saying has nothing to do with banning pigs ornot, but rather as part of a response to the Jews when they reproached the
disciples of Jesus for not washing their hands before eating. On the contrary,
the intention of the Lord Christ with his words is to show that moral impurity
is far more dangerous than physical impurity.
 
 


 
” Peter said,“Explain the parable to us.” “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. “Don’t
you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of
the body? But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart,
and these defile them. For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder,
adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what
defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”
 
Matthew 15:11-20
 
 


 
1. Porkprohibited in Qur’an
The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no lessthan 4 different places.
It is prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115.
“Forbidden to you(for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine,
and that on which hath been invoked the name of other thanAllah.”
[Al-Qur’an 5:3]
The above verses of the Holy Qur’an are sufficient tosatisfy a Muslim as to why
pork is forbidden.
 

 
 
2. Porkprohibited in the Bible
The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religiousscriptures. The Bible
prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus
“And the swine,though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth
not the cud; he is unclean to you”.
“Of their fleshshall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch,
they are unclean to you.” [Leviticus 11:7-8]
Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book ofDeuteronomy
“And the swine,because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud,
it is unclean unto you
 
 


The laws of God are one from Adam to Muhammad, peace beupon them
the worship of the One God (the Father) and not of a humanbeing or an idol or anything you can imagine
and Prohibition of fornication, alcohol and pork
 

 


 
 
 
 
 

 

 
Dr Zakir Naik proved that having Pork is prohibited haraamin Islam as well as in Christianity
 
 

 
 
 


 
 
 
 
 
 
Posted 2 weeks ago

tiger5 says
Thetruth is that Christians leave the clear verses that confirm the non-divinity
of Christ

Andthey cling to the verses that are examples and evidence that he is a prophet and not a god 

Unfortunately,Christians do not follow the true words of Christ  

62“I am,” said Jesus. “Andyou will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and
coming on the clouds of heaven.”" (Mark 14:62).  


Jesusanswered, “If I tell you, you will not believe me, 68 and if I asked you, you
would not answer. 69 But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the
right hand of the mighty God.” 


Lukementioned God and Jesus beside him. 


 TheSon of Man, as is commonly said in the Gospels, is Jesus. The Power here is
"God". So Jesus will sit (according to the text) at the right hand of
God. So God and Jesus are two, since Jesus will be at the right hand of God.
This proves the invalidity of the Trinity and the Incarnation. 

 And it proves that God is (the father) alone And Jesus the son of God is metaphorical and is not equal to God (theFather) in his abilities  

  Notethat the dialogue in the Gospel of Luke is completely different from the Gospel
of Matthew and Mark, in addition to the absence of any dialogue like this in
the Gospel of John!    


 

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Posted 4 week ago

tiger5 says
 
\\\\\\\\\\ The calendar year of Islam begins not with the birthday of our prophet(peace be upon him) not from the time that the revelation came to him (Bethat)
nor from the time of his ascension to heaven, but with the migration (Hijra)
from an undesirable environment into a desirable place to fulfill Allah's
command.

It was migration from a plot that was set by the leaders of theQuraysh who were plotting to kill prophet Muhammad, and to destroy the truth
that today is being conveyed to mankind everywhere against tyranny and
injustice.

Their purpose was to destroy the foundation of the Islamic state,the Sunnah of the tradition of the prophet, and to prevent the revelation being
delivered by Allah's messenger to mankind.


  The Islamic calendar is reckoned from the time of migration (Hijra) ofProphet Mohammad (Peace Be Upon Him) from Mecca
to Madina. The Prophet's decision to migrate from Mecca came after several years of inhuman
treatment of the faithful by the powerful tribes who were united despite all
their feuds to stop the spread of Islam.


 Prophet Mohammad's decision to leave Meccacoincided with the infidel's plan to assassinate him. In 622 AD, the Quresh
tribesmen held a meeting and decided that a band of young men, one from each
tribe, should assassinate Prophet Mohammad collectively so that their
responsibility for the murder could not be placed on any particular tribe.


 On the eventful night, the Prophet asked his cousin Ali Ben Abutalib totake his place in bed to make the Meccans think that he was asleep. The Prophet
himself slipped out unobserved alongwith his loyal follower Abu Bakr (who was
chosen as the first C aliph after the death of the prophet).


They secretly madetheir way to a cave named Thawr, not far from Mecca and lay in hiding there for a day or
two until Abu Bakr's son reported that the search for him had been given up.
Then the two set out from Madina on camel back. They reached Quba, on the edge
of the Madina oasis, on 12th Rabiul Awwal. With Mohammad's arrival in Quba a
new phase of his career and glory of Islam started.


 This migration has a special significance in the history of Islam. It endedthe Meccan period of humiliation and torture and began the era of success. His
own people to whom he preached Islam for 13 years neglected the Prophet of
Islam. But he was cordially received in Madina as an honored chief.


 In Madina his power enhanced day by day. Here he was not only the religiousleader but took the role of a politician and statesman too. Prophet Mohammad
expired ten years after his migration to Madina but only in one decade he
changed the course of human history.


 In view of this special significance of the Prophet's migration theconsultative body advised the Second Islamic Caliph, Omar ben Khattab, to start
the Islamic year from the date of migration of the Prophet from Mecca to Madina.


 According to early Moslem scholars, Abu Musa Al Shari drew attention ofOmar to an improperly dated debenture or IOU which was payable in the month of
Shaban but it was not clear which Shaban was actually meant, the present one or
the coming one. Omar called the dignitaries for consultation who made several
suggestions to begin the Islamic calendar.


 Ali (who later became the fourth caliph) suggested the Hijra as thebeginning of the Islamic year with Moharram as its first month. Consequently,
Caliph Omar in 21 A.H.
or 641 A.D
introduced the Islamic calendar in its present form.


 QURANIC GUIDANCE The guidance about the Islamic calendar is taken from the following versesfrom the Holy Quran: (In the name of GOD most gracious and most merciful)

 "Lo the number of the monthswith God is twelve months." IX:36.

 "They ask thee, of newmoons. Say: They are fixed seasons for mankind and for the pilgrimage."
II:189.

 "He it is who appointed thesun a splendor and the moon a light, and measured for her stages, that ye might
know the number of the years, and the reckoning." X:5

 The Islamic Calendar of 12 Lunar Months is determined by observation of thenew moon with no effort by intercalation (addition) or other means to
synchronize the Lunar year with the Solar year. 

     Amir Ibn Fuhayra (ra): The Guide on the Hijrah| The Firsts | Dr. Omar Suleiman  


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Life Of The Final Messenger - Muhammad pbuh (Seerah) - 12 Hijrah (Migration)- Mufti Ismail Menk  

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