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shariat court kya hai ????

Posted on 3/20/2006 10:15:33 AM

court where decisions r made under islamic law

Posted on 3/20/2006 7:42:39 PM

the shariah is the laws of islam, therefore the shariat court would be where rulings and judgments are applied through the teachings of islam. I read a book on islamic law, i have to say most of the laws we have today compliment the laws of islam, laws of morals are derived mainly from religion.

Posted on 3/22/2006 6:51:03 AM

Bazigaar:
court where decisions r made under islamic law

u mean in other pakistani courts decisions taken r non-islamic



SohniKuddi:
.....
i have to say most of the laws we have today compliment the laws of islam, laws of morals are derived mainly from religion.

thnx SK
if that s the case,,, y do we need a SHARIAT COURT

Posted on 3/22/2006 9:58:52 AM

kissi ko bhi nahi pata ?????
............

Posted on 3/27/2006 1:58:45 AM

mai batao acha pooch ker batao ga

Posted on 3/27/2006 7:05:38 PM

SALL:
Bazigaar:
court where decisions r made under islamic law

u mean in other pakistani courts decisions taken r non-islamic


a little bit...not 100% islamic...

for example...in islam, murder is saza phansi nahi hae...but pakistan mae phansi de jati hae...chori ke saza islam mae imprisonment nahi hae for a given time period....but pak mae jail hote hae..etc etc...

Posted on 3/27/2006 9:26:06 PM

Sall, your question was a bit vague at first. Bazi's first response was what I would have said too. Later when you asked in Pakistan's context, it became clearer. It is very different from a conventional court. In Pak, Sharia court is an appellate branch of Supreme court. An appellate court review judicial laws / appeals and review decisions of lower courts.

In simple words, Sharia appellate court will review a law or a decision when challenged in a sharia court. That is validity of a law or decision on Islamic principles.

Posted on 3/28/2006 12:10:06 AM

thnx bitoo

kissi se suna tha ather,, par mujhe samajh nahi i k iss ka maksad kya hai iss liye pucha tha


Posted on 3/28/2006 12:55:08 AM

Bazigaar:
a little bit...not 100% islamic...

for example...in islam, murder is saza phansi nahi hae...but pakistan mae phansi de jati hae...chori ke saza islam mae imprisonment nahi hae for a given time period....but pak mae jail hote hae..etc etc...

hmmm,,, theek
aa gai samajh

y cant we have just one sys ??
if we r happy with OUR 'normal courts' who r ppl who go to shariat court then ??

Posted on 3/28/2006 12:57:19 AM

Smooth_daddy:
Sall, your question was a bit vague at first. Bazi's first response was what I would have said too. Later when you asked in Pakistan's context, it became clearer. It is very different from a conventional court. In Pak, Sharia court is an appellate branch of Supreme court. An appellate court review judicial laws / appeals and review decisions of lower courts.

In simple words, Sharia appellate court will review a law or a decision when challenged in a sharia court. That is validity of a law or decision on Islamic principles.

i know SD that it was a bit vague,, but i was quite surprised to hear that we have 2 judic sys in pak

u said "it reviews a law/decision when challenged in shariat court"
i didnt get,, matlab k since a law/decision is not challenged its acceptable ???

yarr,, i cant see the point of having 2 parallel systems
y a muslim judge (of supreme/high court) practicing in an islamic country is not aware of islamic laws ???
y do we need a separate "shariat court" to apply islamic laws ??

Posted on 3/28/2006 1:05:05 AM

boy, you are just now smelling the coffee

We still have Brit laws of 19th century which are now obsolete in Brit.

Judicial dichotomy in question highlights the complexity of system. Shariat branch of supreme court was added to the system as an intermediate process towards Islamizing the judicial system. It is not meant to make decision on any cases, it rather serves as a supreme court bench which makes sure that laws governing the country are Islamic. It is one step in the direction of system transition to Islamic law.

I don't know much about judicial systems but my question would be, how effective it has been - any progress made - or has it been an apeasing pill to a section of the society?

Posted on 3/28/2006 2:18:30 AM

SALL:
if that s the case,,, y do we need a SHARIAT COURT


Well, i'm not really sure about the pakistani legal system, my views are based completely on european law. Law works side by side with morals, morals are effectively applied in todays law, by morals i mean like acts that are basically "wrong" an example would be the ten commandments, thou shall not kill, thou shall not steel thou shall not commit adultry etc etc.... so these are morally wrong therefore are supported by law, but if you look at the laws of shariah there are values that are percieved as immoral that are not in the state courts i'll give you an example, adultery, the state will not prosecute under this charge, however this is condem,ned in islam, i'm not sure of rights and remedies and also punishments available in the shariah courts. I hope you see the distinction.

Posted on 3/28/2006 3:49:31 AM

Smooth_daddy:
boy, you are just now smelling the coffee

We still have Brit laws of 19th century which are now obsolete in Brit.

Judicial dichotomy in question highlights the complexity of system. Shariat branch of supreme court was added to the system as an intermediate process towards Islamizing the judicial system. It is not meant to make decision on any cases, it rather serves as a supreme court bench which makes sure that laws governing the country are Islamic. It is one step in the direction of system transition to Islamic law.

I don't know much about judicial systems but my question would be, how effective it has been - any progress made - or has it been an apeasing pill to a section of the society?

hmmmmm,,, reason samajh aa gaya hai
par logic nahi


how effective ??????
well,, i dont think if any LAW can make things better if not used correctly
even islamic/shariat law is useless till ppl dont use it so SOLVE problems,, justice doenst have any religion
its a universal cocept
Islam made things clear,,, but those who dont want to see the reality its still vv vv obscure


btw,,, wot abt non-muslim pakis ??

Posted on 3/28/2006 6:23:57 PM

SohniKuddi:
Well, i'm not really sure about the pakistani legal system, my views are based completely on european law. Law works side by side with morals, morals are effectively applied in todays law, by morals i mean like acts that are basically "wrong" an example would be the ten commandments, thou shall not kill, thou shall not steel thou shall not commit adultry etc etc.... so these are morally wrong therefore are supported by law, but if you look at the laws of shariah there are values that are percieved as immoral that are not in the state courts i'll give you an example, adultery, the state will not prosecute under this charge, however this is condem,ned in islam, i'm not sure of rights and remedies and also punishments available in the shariah courts. I hope you see the distinction.

thnx SK
but adultry is condemned by paki law aswell, but still most of these cases are judged and punished by ppl not by any court


all wot i wanted to say is
Y CANT WE HAVE JUST ONE JUDICIAL SYS,, based on Islamic n moral laws

Posted on 3/28/2006 6:31:34 PM

shahrukh khan:
court main kya hota hai
courtship

Posted on 3/29/2006 7:40:35 PM

court mei sab mil k dhamal dalte hein
aur jiss k steps galt hote hein usse koron se peeta jata hai
atherrrr

Posted on 3/29/2006 11:07:48 PM

SALL:
court mei sab mil k dhamal dalte hein
aur jiss k steps galt hote hein usse koron se peeta jata hai
atherrrr


don't lie...

Posted on 3/29/2006 11:12:25 PM

nikama:
shahrukh khan:
court main kya hota hai
courtship


ke keh rahay ho

don't corrupt kids mind

Posted on 3/29/2006 11:12:45 PM

kon kon kon?

Posted on 3/31/2006 9:41:28 AM

shahrukh khan:
means kuch nahi hota
haan,kuch bhi nahin hota,shariat court ne kuch bohat controversial judgments bhi di hain,jin ko religious scholars bhi nahin mante.

Posted on 3/31/2006 4:57:50 PM

order order

Posted on 3/31/2006 5:00:34 PM

ke keh rahay ho

Posted on 3/31/2006 8:18:46 PM





yeh kya ho raha hai ????
kuch pucha tha
nahi pata to niklo bahir yahan se

Posted on 4/1/2006 11:24:14 AM

faida kuch bhi nahin,asal main sall ki baat theek thi k ap existing system ko islamize karo,parallel bana dene se kuch nahin milta.

Posted on 4/2/2006 7:43:03 PM

kuch nahi ho sakta

Posted on 4/3/2006 9:00:48 PM

lets hope shaid....

Posted on 4/3/2006 9:37:30 PM

let move.. shayad

Posted on 4/3/2006 10:16:57 PM

SALL:
SohniKuddi:
Well, i'm not really sure about the pakistani legal system, my views are based completely on european law. Law works side by side with morals, morals are effectively applied in todays law, by morals i mean like acts that are basically "wrong" an example would be the ten commandments, thou shall not kill, thou shall not steel thou shall not commit adultry etc etc.... so these are morally wrong therefore are supported by law, but if you look at the laws of shariah there are values that are percieved as immoral that are not in the state courts i'll give you an example, adultery, the state will not prosecute under this charge, however this is condem,ned in islam, i'm not sure of rights and remedies and also punishments available in the shariah courts. I hope you see the distinction.

thnx SK
but adultry is condemned by paki law aswell, but still most of these cases are judged and punished by ppl not by any court


all wot i wanted to say is
Y CANT WE HAVE JUST ONE JUDICIAL SYS,, based on Islamic n moral laws
Agree Completely

I think it's not just the judicial system it's the legal system as a whole that needs adjusting.

Posted on 4/4/2006 8:06:13 PM

yes,and not just the legal system but the whole SYSTEM needs a change,so who will bell the cat

Posted on 4/4/2006 8:20:48 PM

billi bhag gai

Posted on 4/5/2006 3:52:02 PM