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Let alone Muslims, Palestinians are divided among themselves. Fatah is watching their opponents, Hamas, getting crushed. Technically, it is a political advantage -- weaker the hamas is, better would be Fatah's chances of forming government in Gaza. In reality, it is a suicide for Fatah. It will be easier for Israelies to fight each faction separatly and finish them both off.
It is the ordinary palestinian who is not sensible enough to see the obvious...because, they are ignorant and they react to their emotional demands.
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unity means tolerance of differences. Currently, Muslims are trying to prove a differing faction not just wrong but out of the fold of Islam. Quran paints the Muslims as, "tough on disbelievers and kind to each other."
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No punt intended at you Fragi. I apologize if my statements ahead will offend you in any way. Bitterness in the tone here is due to the frustration and anger felt in the heart.
I have heard this before from many quarters...have we changed any bit? We talk of changing self only when there is a crises. We suddenly wakeup from deep sleep and want to do something, but we wobble afew steps, like voting on net, and then fall asleep again....we wont change because we don't want to change.
We only want more and better of this life for ourselves and our loved ones at any and all costs. Our nation is in a druken state and it will remain that way. Nations that are insensitive in their core, they desrve to be humiliated, kicked around, name-called, and everything else...so enjoy the fruit
I hope and only hope somebody will wake-up and lead
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me too!
I guess this is one way of venting out anger and frustration.
Muslims can't react against any tyranny, aggression, or even genocide. If they react as individuals, they are terrorist elements, if they are a group, they are a terrorist organization, and if it is a country, it is rouge state. So Muslims, vent your feelings on such web polls.
These are also a means of measuring the temp in Muslim Ummah...
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TT Bro, I just returned from extended absence. Very sorry to hear about your loss. May Allah grant him mercy and forgiveness and enter him in Jannah. Ameen
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SFA, I would disagree that 95% Americans agree with David Duke. It is a much much smaller number. In my experience Majority of Americans support Israel and its cause.
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You pointed at some very key issues there. Having different education systems is not necessarily bad. In US, you can either go to a public school, a private institution (mostly run by Churches) or a Seminary. So how is that different from systems in Pakistan?
In democratic societies, people largely have options and they choose according to their prefernces. Government only oversees and regulates when necessary.
In my humble opinion, Islamists will have to come out with more balanced approach and something that is appealing to all people. They cannot live and survive in an isolated environment.
Media by default supports western culture, but who prevents Islamists from being peacefully creative? Muslims living in the west are constantly challenged with presenting Islam and its values to their children in a creative, fun, and attractive way in the face of all other institutions conteracting in full capacity.
People need to reflect and find ways to face the challenge in intelligent and creative ways instead of resorting to violence.
Heros you mentioned are all war heros. We should also teach youngsters about great busimen who spread Islam through their honest dealings with non-muslims, and those who sacrifised to save non-muslims and through other examples.
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Charizmatic, thanks for defining the terminology.
I concur with your observation and that extremism exists. I don't live in Pakistan so I don't know details. I try to follow news and papers and keep myself apprised.
I am sure you will acknowledge westernization is also occuring in Pak. Faculties of brainwashing and luring people to living western life style are employed in Pakistan. The difference is in the subtleness of their approach along with massive support from proponents of western culture.
There is a clash of values and the islamists are not as sophisticated and eloquent in propagating their values as their counterparts are. Plus , in the wake of a global campaign against Islam cast a darker shadow on advocates Islam. This organized smear campaign against Islam has opened doors for all and sundry critisim, labeling, judging on and certifying anyone willingly wishing to practise Islam as "Talibanied individual."
Liberal political parties in Pakistan jumped on this bandwagon taking political milage and settling scores with rivals.
In a perfect world, both ideologies should have even opportunity to present their views and let people freely choose their life style. In the so called "land of free", Islam can not be preached or practised freely.
On the other hand, islamists will have to come up with much better marketing techniques than they are currently using. Let's see where it settles!
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I don't care if Pakistan and India are friends or not. You don't have to be friends to live peacefully. Both need to be wise, respectful and neighborly....this doesn't get in Indian heads. India alone cannot be a bully in the region posing constant threat to the survival and soverignity of its neighbors. Its got a big head because of economic boom. India wants to dominate the region and in pursuit of that it start beating war drums.
India knows it well that idiots are on both side of borders and in all religions. Wars don't solve such problems. People stand upto super powers. Afghans stood against Soviet Union and now Iraqis against US....what is India to US and Pakistan to Iraq? we know the answer.
Friendship is a distant blur between India and Pakistan. Let them not hatch conspiracies against each other. India has been perpetrating terrorist acts in Pakistan through Afghanistan since US invasion in 2002. India doesn't have friends, especially among its neighbors. It has been constantly medalling into political affairs of its neighbors and fuels insurgency and instability in neighboring countries. Let India find peace with itself first.
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Some of you are demanding churian for eid in PMs. It'll be unfair with other gals. they are part of JB fam as well. So, I decided to order a box for everyone.
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Pakistan is a terrorist country, dont deny the fact, only reason why India thinks/blames Pakistan is because Pakistan has a dirty history of hiding terrorists in their country. you gotta kill em even if their Muslims, dont matter at the end of the day they're terrorists.
That is so funny . In the list of terrorist countries, India tops for its brutal and bloody history of state sponsored killings. Don't forget atrocities of Indian military in Eastern india, Punjab, and in Kashmir for as long as India has been an independent country.
I really admire your ignorance Pakistan fought America's proxy war against Soviet Union of that time through Pakistani trained Mujahids. Where was India standing at that point? Fully supporting Soviet invasion of Aghanistan and perpetrating terror attacks in Pakistan.
Speaking of killing terrorists, India should kill all its hindu zealots, especially attackers and murderers of christians, and of Muslims....at the end of the day they are terrorists, hindus and Indians!! Get rid of them.
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Smooth_daddy said:
I have yet to find a single person who likes this guy. Then how did he become the president of Pakistan?
Would the people of Pakistan learn a lesson? You bet they will not!
Pak k logon ne isko select nhi kiya ye bi ussi choor raste se aya hai jahan se Mush aya tha,farq sirf itna hai is ne khud per democracy ka label chipkaya hua hai aur jitne bi logon ne isko vote dya tha unhon ne BB ki death ko zehan mein rakha tha waise bi BB zinda bi hoti tu yehi sab hona tha coz "DEAL" ho chuki thi aur usi deal ka result hai k Mush se koi poch gach nhi ki gyi
I RESPECT YOUR OPINION BUT I DON'T AGREE WID IT. He didn't come through the back door. He became President because his party is in majority.
BB's death was tragic but it is the people of Pakistan who always act in emotion. Zardari cashed those emotions and won elections. If it wasn't him or his party, it would have been someone like him came into power. It really doesn't bother me cuz government only changes hands but Pakistan as a country doesn't benefit in any way.
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my take on this would be totally different.
I don't understand what talibanization means? We tend to use words and terms just because they are buzzing everywhere. Can anyone explain what talibanization is?
We need not label people and their sets of beliefs according to western likness. This media spin on Islam has led many Muslims in Muslims countries to believe that practising Islam is a shameful thing. Because it is unacceptable to largely christian west, Muslims should also shun it.
So anyone who decides to practise their religion, "Islam" in this case, whether they have ever heard of Taliban or not, are labelled as Taliban, which equates to terrorism!!!!
Don't get me wrong! I am no fan of Taliban either but i don't like to label people.
Infact, Pakistani politicians are using this term to settle political scores with each other.
wait for the package to arrive at your door 
terrorists.
