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achaaa naaa,, aik last serious baat

some one told me that Quran pak mei likha hai k mard ka darja aurat se thora zyada hai,,, okk likha hoga zaroor coz meri knowledge bohot kam hai and as everyone say that to sahi hi hoga

just one question,,
DARJA KAM HONE KA KYA MATLAB HAI ??
does it mean k mard aur aurat k amaal ka hisab alag alag scales se hoga
aik hi naiki ka ajar mard liye zyada hoga kya
aik hi gunah ki saza mard liye kam aur aurat liye zyada hogi kya






(yar bass me reh nahi saki,,, abhi yeh akhri topic)
filhal k liye

and plz baat ko idhar udhar nahi le jana,, jisse pata hai sirf wohi bole,, ulti seedhi bongi plzzz koi na mare

Posted on 1/28/2005 12:07:29 AM

It is true that in Surat Baqarah Allah swt stated that men hold a degree higher above women. It is very important to take the context of the statement before drawing any conclusions.

This verse was mentioned right after the verse: "And the women have rights similar to men over them to what is reasonable". These are the verses where Allah swt has given the strength and balance in the relationship between husband and wife.

Ibn `Abbas said, "I like to take care of my appearance for my wife just as I like for her to take care of her appearance for me. This is because Allah says: "And the women have rights similar to men over them to what is reasonable".

Giving men a higher degree is of responsibility, not mere authority. This Ayah indicates that men are in a more advantageous position than women physically as well as in their mannerism, obedience (of women to them), spending, taking care of the affairs and in general.
In another Ayah, Allah swt says: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means." (4:34).

Allah is just, He will treat humans equally, however, people of responsibility and authority will have greater accountability. It would be unfair to treat a slave and a master with same standards of responsibilty. In the matters of belief and worship, all are equal, but when it comes to responsibilites, accountability is by status.

This my humble understanding, Allah knows the best.


Posted on 1/28/2005 1:25:51 AM

thnx a lot SD
thats wot i thought too..
Allah ka shukar hai k mujh mei abhi itni akal hai k kissi bhi baat ko aankhein band kar k na maan lu


for me higher authority means higher resposibilities
just like an empror or a ruler, or head of a family, authority hai par resp uss se bhi zyada hein

i accept authority of anyone jo apni pooori resp sahi se adaa kare

Posted on 1/28/2005 3:43:07 PM

sallam.com
SAll mubarak ho

Posted on 1/28/2005 3:50:27 PM

so smooth_daddy cleared everything .. .. i hope no further explanation is needed ..

exactly Sall..
higher authority means higher resposibilities ..

jaisay Hazrat Umer said "firaq kay kinaaray aik baqree ka bacha bhee bhokka soo gia tu Qayamat kay din Umer say sawaal hoo ga.."

aur loog apni in authorities ka najaiz faida uthtay hein..

Posted on 1/28/2005 5:38:50 PM

saheliiii



mubarik kahe ki beimaan khan

Posted on 1/28/2005 11:09:00 PM

Smooth_daddy:
It is true that in Surat Baqarah Allah swt stated that men hold a degree higher above women. It is very important to take the context of the statement before drawing any conclusions.

This verse was mentioned right after the verse: "And the women have rights similar to men over them to what is reasonable". These are the verses where Allah swt has given the strength and balance in the relationship between husband and wife.

Ibn `Abbas said, "I like to take care of my appearance for my wife just as I like for her to take care of her appearance for me. This is because Allah says: "And the women have rights similar to men over them to what is reasonable".

Giving men a higher degree is of responsibility, not mere authority. This Ayah indicates that men are in a more advantageous position than women physically as well as in their mannerism, obedience (of women to them), spending, taking care of the affairs and in general.
In another Ayah, Allah swt says: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has made one of them to excel the other, and because they spend (to support them) from their means." (4:34).

Allah is just, He will treat humans equally, however, people of responsibility and authority will have greater accountability. It would be unfair to treat a slave and a master with same standards of responsibilty. In the matters of belief and worship, all are equal, but when it comes to responsibilites, accountability is by status.

This my humble understanding, Allah knows the best.





is nay aur kuch chora hi nahi batney ko

Posted on 2/7/2005 5:55:43 AM

shouldn't this topic be in religion section???????

Posted on 2/7/2005 6:21:49 AM

1st of all salam to all,
sall Quran ki har baat sachii haiii.
and main jo batyoo ga i dont knoe phlay yay kasii nain kaha haii ya nahii but main again bata dayta hoon
mard ka darja zayda honain ki waja hain
like mard aurat say takreben har kaam main agay hota haii.
2nd mard kia dua aurat say jaldi sunii jati haii,
is ki waja yay haiikay aurat jub bi bad dua dayti haii to wo dil say nahii dayti aurat ka dil nazuk hota haii sec min melt kia ja sukta haii jub kay mard dil say bad dua di jati haii and mard soch ker bad dua dayta haii jub kay aurat nahii,.
kuch howa nahii phlay bad dua jub kay mard asa nahii kerty
SALL:
achaaa naaa,, aik last serious baat

some one told me that Quran pak mei likha hai k mard ka darja aurat se thora zyada hai,,, okk likha hoga zaroor coz meri knowledge bohot kam hai and as everyone say that to sahi hi hoga

just one question,,
DARJA KAM HONE KA KYA MATLAB HAI ??
does it mean k mard aur aurat k amaal ka hisab alag alag scales se hoga
aik hi naiki ka ajar mard liye zyada hoga kya
aik hi gunah ki saza mard liye kam aur aurat liye zyada hogi kya






(yar bass me reh nahi saki,,, abhi yeh akhri topic)
filhal k liye

and plz baat ko idhar udhar nahi le jana,, jisse pata hai sirf wohi bole,, ulti seedhi bongi plzzz koi na mare

Posted on 2/7/2005 12:01:38 PM

heart__hacker:
like mard aurat say takreben har kaam main agay hota haii.

2nd mard kia dua aurat say jaldi sunii jati haii,
is ki waja yay haiikay aurat jub bi bad dua dayti haii to wo dil say nahii dayti aurat ka dil nazuk hota haii sec min melt kia ja sukta haii jub kay mard dil say bad dua di jati haii and mard soch ker bad dua dayta haii jub kay aurat nahii,.
kuch howa nahii phlay bad dua jub kay mard asa nahii kerty


DONT AGREEEE
i dont get ur point act

u'd better read Smooth Dady's post

Posted on 2/7/2005 3:16:48 PM

Mard ki dua aurat se jaldi kubool hoti hai

it doesnt make any sense to me
i ve always heard maa ki dua bohot jald kubool hoti hai,, aaj tak kissi mard ko maa bante me ne nahi dekha

yeh bhi suna hai k
sache dil aur sachi niyyat se mangi hui dua zuroor kubool hoti hai,, par mujhe yeh nahi bataya kissi ne k woh dil mard ka hona chaiye

Posted on 2/7/2005 3:30:08 PM


sall maa ki dua jald koboo hoti haii ager wo dil say kii jay mean to say kay app aik mother and aik father lay loo and un ka sis or any one bura kerta haii to mother furen bad dua day gii laken ager wo father say kary ga to father soch smajh ker bad dua day ga
samjh ayii ya phlay walii bi gyiii
and dil mard ka ho ya aurat ka dua sachi niyyat say mangi jay,
got it?

Posted on 2/7/2005 4:39:37 PM

wotever

mard soch samajh k bad dua deta hai that s y uss ka rutba uncha hai
me hansu ???

Posted on 2/7/2005 5:00:33 PM


Posted on 2/7/2005 8:15:39 PM

I agree with SALL about that ka sache dil aur sachi niyyat se mangi hui dua zuroor kubool hoti hai,par mujhe yeh nahi bataya kissi ne k woh dil mard ka hona chaiye

Posted on 2/10/2005 7:20:35 AM