SALL:

dont laff wind
it s a shame

i wasnt laughing... but i was... coz of these bitter things...

i know wind y were u laffing
i ve something elses to post but still hasitating
this topic makes me sick

sorry i am latecome, so i have not read all of the opinions. may be some ppl have said, what i am gonna say again. sorry for this.

my opinion:

poora ilzam aurat ko nahi diya jasakta, poora ilzam society ko bhi nahi diya jasakta. both are in my opinion guilty in this case.

forbidden karna ya na karna is another matter. pakistani insanon ko waisay bhi buhat shauk hai har baat mana karne ka. iss liye i will see the whole matter from a different perspective.

so first of all to yeh hai ke koi woman kamm hi apne shauq se yeh kaam karti hai. agar karti bhi hai to uss ke customers baharhaal mard hi hai. agar mard jo itni barri barri baaten karte hain, shareef hain to jaaten hi kion hai prostitutes ke paas. agar koi khatoon phir bhi apne shauq se yeh kaam karti hain to Allah bakhshe unn ko. medical treatment should be consulted.
lack of family-structure. less realtives. aghwa shuda khawateen. bachpan me ghar se nadaani me bhagi hui aurten. blackmailed larrkian aur najaanay kya kya wajuhaat likhi jaasakti hai yeh batane ke liye ke koi aurat prostitution kio karti hai.

doosri taraf mard hazrat ko zahir hai acha lagta hai yeh sab kuch, issi liye to dhandha chalta hai, warna shareefon ki masjad ke qareeb yeh kaam bhala kion chalay?

i personally think that, women, who do this are weak women. kamzor hoti hai aur itna dabao nahi bardasht karne wali hoti warna aakhri damm takk apne halaat ka samna karti. for example: agar aik aurat ki izzat loot kar usse prostitution ke liye majboor kiya jaaye to usse agle customer ke saath bhi kam az kamm sakhti to karni chahiye. jabb takk marr nahi jaati uss waqt takk struggle honi chahiye. magar zindagi kisse nahi pyaari hoti.

khair prostitution na kabhi khatam hui hai aur na hi honi hai. iss ke khatam karne ka aik hi hall hai.

saare mard shareef bachon ki tarah shadiyan karen aur ache aur naik bache bann jaayen. mana karna ya khwateen ko jail me daalne se aur wagheira wagheira se pichli saari history me yeh kaam khatam nahi hua ab kaisay hoajan hai? thats tha question. kamzor auraten, kamzor mard.

thnx for ur post dj,,
deir aye,, par shukar hai galt nahi aae



just one thing,,,
hamare han,,, balke poori dunya mei hi aurat ko hamesha kamzor hi kaha jata hai,, aur mard ko mazboot
to phir iss baat mei aurat ki kamzori ka kya gila
gila to unn se hona chaiye jo khud ko bohot takatwar aur mazboot kehte hein



khair,,, i know there isnt any solution to that pb,,,
galti kissi ki bhi nahi hai,, aur galti sab ki bhi hai

have u heard
ache logon k liye burai ka sath dene liye sirf itna kafi hai k woh burai ko chup kar k accept kar lein
to phir acha kaun hua ??


u said,, aisa kaam karne se pehle marr jana behtar hai,, u r rite,, and i agree to ur opinion
par log to sirf apni choti choti khushiyon liye kissi ki jaan le lete hein,,
iss profession mei aane wali aurat/larki koi zabardasti to nahi karti kissi k saath,, woh buri hai apni zaat k liye,,,,,,

exacly like alcohol,,, sharab buri cheez hai par agar aap alcoholic ho to iss mei sharab ka kya kasoor,,

prostitution is something choosen by women.

if they are forced into it.....thn u may sympathise with them...butrecently ive concluded that the situation isnt as bad as women make it out to be....i mena yes we hear th odd story about some poor gilr being trapped into the whole thing but what about the others....so,many others?

women are not weak/..they are not stupid...they know what they are doing.....u thinkall the prostiues in paksitan have been forced intoit? i dont blooody thinkso!!!

Manie:

prostitution is something choosen by women.

if they are forced into it.....thn u may sympathise with them...butrecently ive concluded that the situation isnt as bad as women make it out to be....i mena yes we hear th odd story about some poor gilr being trapped into the whole thing but what about the others....so,many others?

women are not weak/..they are not stupid...they know what they are doing.....u thinkall the prostiues in paksitan have been forced intoit? i dont blooody thinkso!!!

true

amaan
did u read all prev posts ??

im sure u didnt,,,

nopes
frankly speaking most of the people here are just wanna be's whoise opinions are strongly based on what they saee on telly ...mostly indian channels....i cannot be arsed with their thinking pattern...

women inoour society..in pakistani society... are well respected. More thn they are in many modern civilisations.

Its just a fashionable thing now to say wpomen are oppressed....they shud be strong...educate themselves.....

its all bullsh*t that noone give a sh*t about women..we had a female primeminister for gods sake?

ok so things are messed upin interior area's...but u have to see that things are the same for gusy there as well.

I,being hte most average hardcore paksitani..have the utmost respect for women inmyheat....i was brought up being told a gentle ma nstands up if a lady walks in..u give her ur seat....u do all the hard work urself...women are born to chill...men are born to work their arses off..simple

now prostituion...u have any idea how much money is in da business? theres a reason why govt's dont shut it off completely...and most women are in it for da money...not cuz they are forced into it....and if they ran away and got forced into it...whose fault is that?
anyways this is not the objective.

i wont answer in detail for the moment,,, vv tired


just lemme b clear,, u said
"women ino our society..in pakistani society... are well respected. More thn they are in many modern civilisations"
first thing,,, i didnt say that women status in western countries is better than pak,, so no comparaison
2nd thing,,, r u sure WOMEN r respected ??   im not talking abt mother, sister, daughter or wife... but just a woman ?????

^manie^:

nopes
frankly speaking most of the people here are just wanna be's whoise opinions are strongly based on what they saee on telly ...mostly indian channels....i cannot be arsed with their thinking pattern...

women inoour society..in pakistani society... are well respected. More thn they are in many modern civilisations.

Its just a fashionable thing now to say wpomen are oppressed....they shud be strong...educate themselves.....

its all bullsh*t that noone give a sh*t about women..we had a female primeminister for gods sake?

ok so things are messed upin interior area's...but u have to see that things are the same for gusy there as well.

I,being hte most average hardcore paksitani..have the utmost respect for women inmyheat....i was brought up being told a gentle ma nstands up if a lady walks in..u give her ur seat....u do all the hard work urself...women are born to chill...men are born to work their arses off..simple

now prostituion...u have any idea how much money is in da business? theres a reason why govt's dont shut it off completely...and most women are in it for da money...not cuz they are forced into it....and if they ran away and got forced into it...whose fault is that?
anyways this is not the objective.

women are more respected in our community than in the west

yes sall women are more respected in PAKSITAN thn they are in da west!!
blv me ive chill'd indamost shadiest places in pak...and ive had my share o dodgy hang out here in uk....

women might be oppressed in our society.....but htey are not humiliated like here...nil respect for their being..their womenhood...

i said no comparaison
compare urself to bad ppl,, and u ll never become good

D.Lotta great points.
Punishments in a penal system discourage and deter people who may have a desire to indulge in indecency and thus keep crimes to lower levels. Crime will never sieze to exist becuase shaitan will live thru the end of time and people will follow him. Idea about crime in any society is to contain it.

Crime prevention directly proportionate to level of faith and belief prevalent in a society. Level of Eman cannot be judged by number of prayers one offers or the length of the beard or turban, instead it is how much one refrains from sin with fear of displeasing the Most Merciful and doing good just to seek His pleasure.

If we want to reduce crime, let us work upon ourselves and those who are close and learn that we can get away from LEAs for crime no matter how big or small but can't escape the sight of Almighty, and He will take account of it.

Menace of prostitution its proponents, promoters, its support system and peripheral infrastructure will die down without police power and law enforcement. Instead, with internal strength of belief and fear of the Lord with reassurance of reward and eternal peace, men will remain committed to wives and women will cherish chastity and will be remain piously shy from Allah.Smooth_daddy38484.9013888889

im FOR a penal system

where not only prost but all these men visiting these places wd b punished too..
kash_beauty38485.1415740741

SALL:

im FOR a penal system

where not only prost but all these men visiting these places wd b punished too..

at the end, it seems to me more of a man-woman issue for you. You are confusing me. You talk about this issue from a woman's perspective or you intend a principle stand point?

SALL:

im FOR a penal system
where not only prost but all these men visiting these places wd b punished too..

hmmm buhat sakht tabiyyat ki khatoon nikli aap to. kattar, pakki teacher, haath me dandda.

kya maloom yeh jinn menn aur women ki baat ho rahi hai unheN bachpan me buhat maar parri ho, issi liye jawani me apni hjasrateN poori karte haiN. saza se pehle konsi muasharti burai theek hui hai jo abb ho jaayegi?

kuch examples bhi to diya kareN.

Smooth_daddy:

at the end, it seems to me more of a man-woman issue for you. You are confusing me. You talk about this issue from a woman's perspective or you intend a principle stand point?

sorry,, little correction
my prev comment +
all gigolos and women hiring them must b punished too



ya naa SD,, dont take me wrong
all i want is justice,,, a balanced panel system
and offcourse a neat and clean society
i never took side of prost,, par sirf itna k unhein khatam karne se burai khatam nahi hogi,,,, imagine when there wd b no prost, wot wd all these frustrated guys do ??
no dont even imagine,, its soooo sick

woh kya na,,, im just trying to point out reasons,, consequence to samne hein

Smooth_daddy:

Menace of prostitution its proponents, promoters, its support system and peripheral infrastructure will die down without police power and law enforcement. Instead, with internal strength of belief and fear of the Lord with reassurance of reward and eternal peace, men will remain committed to wives and women will cherish chastity and will be remain piously shy from Allah.

agree,, and offcourse as u said fear of Almighty

djeedja lotta:

hmmm buhat sakht tabiyyat ki khatoon nikli aap to. kattar, pakki teacher, haath me dandda.

kya maloom yeh jinn menn aur women ki baat ho rahi hai unheN bachpan me buhat maar parri ho, issi liye jawani me apni hjasrateN poori karte haiN. saza se pehle konsi muasharti burai theek hui hai jo abb ho jaayegi?

kuch examples bhi to diya kareN.

hehehhe,,, donno wot do u call kattar,,, par agar hakeekat ka samna karna kattar hona hai to yep I AM


point to b noted,,
u r rite aam taur pe koi na koi kami hi reh gai hoti hai bachpan mei tabhi log galt raste pe jaate hein,, yeh baat to me maanti hu, galti parents se kahin na kahin hoti hai aur bhgatna aulad balke poori dunya ko parta hai
hmm,,, yani k parents r not that great jitna hum kehte hein

par iss point of view se to sab gunah maaf hue na
i think prev life can only help to understand our actions and reactions,, but it not always justify them

par baat to phir wahin aa gai na jahan se start hui thi,, bachpan bohot kharab guzra kissi ka aur bare ho k panah dhoondi uss shaks ne prost mei,,
samajh liya, maana liya,, maaf bhi kar diya
par uss aurat ko kaun maaf kare ga jo shayad apni mamrzi se galt jaga pe paida bhi nahi hui ??

phir aap kaho ge k men/women mukabla shuru ho gaya


hmm,, saza wakai ilaj nahi hai,,,
hall bohot asaan hai,,, self controle, fear of Almighty, sirf khud ko burai karne se na rokna par burai k khilaf khare hona bhi,, HAQ ka saath dena chahe apne hi upper mushkil aati ho
par phir uss easy life, aur ayashi ka kya hoga jiss k bager hamari dunya adhoori hai

so raise a generation who's God-concious and virtous. Hopefully, they will bring glory back to our Muslim nation, Insha-Allah. Do your part in raising children with this ideology and I will raise mine. Let us be good examples for them. Let's be the generation who sacrifised for laying the foundation of revival. We will be forgotten by the people soon after our demise but we'll be known well in the heavens and mentioned among the angels.

Are we ready for it?

me ready,,,

process start ho chuka hai

That makes two of us.

Allah miyan saaabbbbbbbbbbbb ko seedhe raste pe rakhehin
Ameen

sum-ameen!

KB, do you intend to make sacrifices for setting up revival!

I found out a few months ago that in Pakistan if a non related man touches a girl on the street he goes to jail for 3 months

With laws like these surely Pakistan shouldn't have problems with TABOOS

really! never heard of it!
thanks for info

well there are other realities and tragedies that come along wid 'at.

come on yar
do u think we dont have laws against raps, adultry etc

a law doesnt mean anything till its not applied

and applied with an even hand.