rapunzel
i do one thing

respect women

good this is the best thing.

Quest waswhat Musharaf said about Mukhtara and such issues in US.

Mind you guys and gals, my blood boiled and I have never been this furious in my life when I read in the paper of a rape of a 4 yers old in khi. Docs had to remove her uterus, she had broken limbs and is unconcious. Person responsible for it was her own brother-in-law. Remember the 9 year old girl who was raped and then brutally murdered in Pak.
Does it not tell this general and his aides of morality breakdown in the society. He can't gauge or sense degeneration and loss of values in Pak.

Musharraf has a twisted mind where everything has to fit his logic. For him, for economic well being of the country, he would do any thing. Be it decay of moral, values, religion or even social disintegration, as long as it serves the purpose, its all worth the price.

ya i had also read that us haiwan ko tu goli mar deni chchiye n woh bhi sar e aam

Smooth_daddy:

Quest waswhat Musharaf said about Mukhtara and such issues in US.

Mind you guys and gals, my blood boiled and I have never been this furious in my life when I read in the paper of a rape of a 4 yers old in khi. Docs had to remove her uterus, she had broken limbs and is unconcious. Person responsible for it was her own brother-in-law. Remember the 9 year old girl who was raped and then brutally murdered in Pak.
Does it not tell this general and his aides of morality breakdown in the society. He can't gauge or sense degeneration and loss of values in Pak.

Musharraf has a twisted mind where everything has to fit his logic. For him, for economic well being of the country, he would do any thing. Be it decay of moral, values, religion or even social disintegration, as long as it serves the purpose, its all worth the price.

i ve said this is all bcoz of caareless atitude toward religion n coz of parents.tarbiat ki kami n undar ka gand hai jo ye karne par majboor karta hai

YES DEEN SAY DOOORI IS THE MAIN CAUSE


BAKI YAAR LOG BOHAT FURSTRATD HOTAY HAI
SEX SICK

not sex sick they all mentally retarted n sick persons

Smooth_daddy:

People of Pakistan, May Allah be your protector.
Your leader is negotiating your honor and your dignity.

Of course, long live Musharaf - chanting Jews and zionists -- here comes another Muslim traitor who is ready to stab the whole nation for his own ambitions.

Clearly youre in the oppostition. musharraf did not stab any 1 in the back. especially not the muslim. all those extremist (so called holy muslims) have stabbed musharraf in the back and backwarding our nation. Musharraf does have some faults but he is the man who has led pakistan through tough times. any other fundamentalist would have put pakistan in misery and disaster.

I'm sorry Mr. Jinnah, I must've missed in reading Quran where Pakistan was mentioned as sacred. I however read the life and blood of Muslim as sacred, I found solidarity with non-muslims against muslims as sin, and I found Al-Quds as sacred and blessed.

How twisted is Musharraf's ideas - you will now find US govt endorsing his plans of westernizing pakistan.

translation!!

b serious all of u

Mr_Jinnah:

Smooth_daddy:

People of Pakistan, May Allah be your protector.
Your leader is negotiating your honor and your dignity.

Of course, long live Musharaf - chanting Jews and zionists -- here comes another Muslim traitor who is ready to stab the whole nation for his own ambitions.

Clearly youre in the oppostition. musharraf did not stab any 1 in the back. especially not the muslim. all those extremist (so called holy muslims) have stabbed musharraf in the back and backwarding our nation. Musharraf does have some faults but he is the man who has led pakistan through tough times. any other fundamentalist would have put pakistan in misery and
disaster.

jinnah if u dont hv any info about Quran so plz not quote tht sort of things

Smooth_daddy:

I'm sorry Mr. Jinnah, I must've missed in reading Quran where Pakistan was mentioned as sacred. I however read the life and blood of Muslim as sacred, I found solidarity with non-muslims against muslims as sin, and I found Al-Quds as sacred and blessed.

How twisted is Musharraf's ideas - you will now find US govt endorsing his plans of westernizing pakistan.

Pakistan is not mentioned as sacred in the Quran. And if the life of muslims is sacred according to the teachings of islam, then it is also islam who teaches us to respect life (wheter a muslim life or a non muslim life).
Musharraf is not westernizing pakistan. He is trying to find a balance between Din and Dunya.
And that is exactly the teaching of islam. Its good to see that there is a leader in Pakistan who is not viewing the world with the glasses of the extemists.

discussion start kahan se hui thi
aur baat kahan ki kahan pohonch gai hai

Musharraf k bayan yeh baat show karta hai k he is unable to maintain THAT SO CALLED BALANCE between deen/dunya or woteverrrrrrrrrrr
yehi baat koi jahil molvi ne kahi hoti to itni buri nahi lagti

SALL:

discussion start kahan se hui thi
aur baat kahan ki kahan pohonch gai hai

Musharraf k bayan yeh baat show karta hai k he is unable to maintain THAT SO CALLED BALANCE between deen/dunya or woteverrrrrrrrrrr
yehi baat koi jahil molvi ne kahi hoti to itni buri nahi lagti

I know where this topic started. I just wanted to react on the quoted posts(see above).

If u have read the paper musharraf also said that the newspaper misinterpretated his words. but many people did not (wanted) to read that. especially not the people who are against him.
I think musharraf has done more for wonams rights than the previous governemts together. but he is also just a human being. he cant solve any problem immediately. As a nation we have to work together to prevent these things from happening.

i said that coz Jinnah wd never had supported mush
khair,, its ur own opinion,,,
foret wot i said



heyyyyyyyyyyyyy
larai nahi plz,,, no more pers attacks
khatammmm

back to topic

Aslam o Alikum guyz and galz


here we r discusing abt Mukhtaran Mai
so here is my ovservation

Mukhtaran Mai Muzafargarh ki aik tehsil main rehnye wali Mukhtaran Mai

mujhye bhi bahut afsos hia jo us ke sath hua per us se bhi zyada afsos hai jo us ne baad
main khud ke sath kiya
theek hia us ka sath rape hua per is main is ko itna uchalnye ki kiya baat hia i mean on
international media yeh hamara national prblm hia is main kisi aur country ko involve honye
ki koi zarorat nahi
aur jahan tak ke us ko insaaf kyoon nahi mila abhi tak woh is liye ke woh khud nahi chati
(not 4 all galz)(aurat ki izat apnye hath main bhi hoti hia) us ko apni publicity chaye pessa
chaye
hamari govt ne yeh to nahi kaha na ager kisi ke sath yeh sab kuch hota hia ham kuch nahi karyen
gayen.... kaha hai kiya ?
ager us ko insaaf chaye to usye chaye ke woh nataional courts ,lawyers,Govt se meetings
kerye un se insaaf ki appel karye
(4xamzple keh ager father ki death ke baad property divide hoti hai to ham khud beth ker apis
main sab mamla clear kertye hain ab ager ameriaca ka koi journalist a jaye ke jee main
batata hoon kiya kerna hia to ap yeh kahoo gyae na ke bhai tumhyen kis ne kaha hia ke hamrye
mamlye mian tang araoo tum hotye kon ho ...and on other hand ager ap hi us ko accept ker lo
gaye to phir baqi aur kiya ker sakyen gayen beshak woh ap ke relavtives main se ho
ham sab ko yeh baat samjh atti hai to is case main bhi yehi baat hai woh kyoon nahi)
ne ke international media ke samnye apni dastan sunaye
aur udher ki invitations accept kerye aur foriegn nationalities like canada
ap sab ko pata ho ga ke canada ne usye nationality ki offer ki aur canadian govt ko yeh bhi pata
hai ke un ke coutry main in sab ki kiya ratio hai ap zara ghor karyen ke woh is ko yeh offer
kyoon de rahi hia baqi coutries ki baqi aurtoon ko kyoon nahi including Pak
aur jahan tak baat rahi burai ki to burai to rahye gi har waqt har jagha aur yeh khatam nahi ho
gi
woh is liye ke ham log jab buraye hoti hia to phir us ko investigate kertye hain aur
investigation ke liye har baar aik hi jaga se start letyen hian
jab flood atta hia to flood ko roknye ke liye kabhi bhi us ki back per band nahi banatye
hamesha us se agye banatyen hian ta kye aur nuqsan na ho jab hamye yeh pata hia to yeh baat
samjh nahi atti ke ham buraye ko bhi isi nazar se dekhyen.........us ke agye control aur chk
rakhyen na ke phir start se investigation start ker dayen
aur aik baat ham is tarhan ker bhi layen to ham buraye ko khatam nahi ker saktye han kam
zaror ker saktye hain near to dead level..... or may be not.......


abhi tak sab ki post read ker ke yehi baat samjh mian aye jo ap ne read ki

and sorry if any one hurts from this espacially galz

wish u gud luck 4 ur future
BE HAPPY

Sall, you gave me another idea.

enough of Musharaf and Maai.bund karo ab ye topic

jab tak hamare logon ki akal takhno mei rahe gi
such discussions will remain sterile

SALL:

jab tak hamare logon ki akal takhno mei rahe gi
such discussions will remain sterile

correction - in the bottom of their shoes.

Smooth_daddy:

SALL:

jab tak hamare logon ki akal takhno mei rahe gi
such discussions will remain sterile

absoluetly right u r.

well,there r a few similarities between Mushi and Maai.their claim to fame has been an accident(alleged highjacking and alleged rape).both have certainly benefitted from the accidents.both look forword to America for support.both have a good P.R.both look good enough b4 the camera and both exploit this fact to no end.

"FAME"
maii ki majboori hai,, if she was not that famous to ab tak uss ka case bhi khatam ho chuka hota aur most probably woh khud bhi

mushi wont die withouht it