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* kazaa namaz *

me ne kahin suna hai k kazaa namaaz adaa karne ka aik aur tareeka bhi hai
like agar bohot si namazein kazaa ho gai hon to unhein kaise parha jae

Posted on 6/3/2006 11:22:15 AM

wo doosra tareeqa kon sa hey sall..? i mean i dont know...

Posted on 6/6/2006 9:40:46 PM

wohi to puch rahi hu yarr
its something like,, 4 farz kazaa hon to unn ki jaga chota kar k parh sakte hein

can someone help plz ???

Posted on 6/6/2006 11:47:22 PM

Sall, have you ever brought a dead person back to life or have you seen or known anyone doing that except for miracles Allah mentioned in the Quran!

Qada salah means the prayers are decesed. How can you bring it back to life?

Posted on 6/7/2006 2:54:43 AM

SD
u mean if i ve missed a prayer i dont need to pay kada




namaz na parhna gunah hai,, par agar kada bhi poori na karo
thats baddddd baddd,, reallyy bad

Posted on 6/7/2006 11:49:27 AM

heey

kazaa namaz is offered by performing the farz raka'ts of whichever of the five prayers you missed. So speaking in terms of offering kazaa:

Fajr: 2 rakats farz
Zuhr: 4 rakats farz
Asr: 4 rakats farz
Maghrib: 3 rakats farz
Isha: 4 rakats farz

the performance is the same as you would have performed the normal farz rakats had you not missed them... only the intention should be that you are performing kazaa namaaz.

As for should you perform every single kazaa that you have missed previously in your life? I believe the answer is: NO.

what you should do is repent from your past behaviour and strictly guard your prayers from now on. Remember Allah is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful. Still if you wish to offer your previous kazaa prayers, my advice would be to offer them during Ramdhan as much as you can. The important thing is that you don't miss your prayers from now on. Ask Allah for forgiveness regarding your missed prayers in the past... it's very simple.

Posted on 6/7/2006 1:41:45 PM

I wanted to share with you how I understand the stance of Ibn Taimiyyah in several points:

1- Are there Hadeeths when muslims had to do Kazaa Salat?
Yes and the hadeeths were on a short term basis, therefore one missed a Salat, he had to make it up.

2- Are there Hadeeths that dealth with people who missed Salat on a long term basis?
NO.

3- Can you use the rule of the short term missed Salat and make analogy with the long term missed Salat?
That is where people differed. The Question is this Qiyas appropriate?

4- Why do people miss Salat on a long term basis?
Kufr conscious or unconscious and ignorance.

5- Does a Kafir who become Muslim have to do Kazaa Salaat?
No

5- Are there examples of people who had Salat that were not considered right in Islam and who prayed wrongly for long periods of time?

Yes. the muslims of Habasha prayed to Jerusalem for a while before they knew otherwise. there is the Hadeeth of a man who was informed by the prophet that his Salat did not count.

6- Did they have to do Kazaa Salat?
NO.

7- Can you use this as Qiyas for one who did not pray because of ignorance?
Debate and Ibn Taimiyyah says yes

9- Why does a Kafir not have to do Kazaa Salaat?
Because through his Tawba to Islam, the past is forgotten and behind us.

10- Does that mean that the Tawba of the Muslim from his error should not mean that the past is forgotten and behind us?
To Ibn Taimiyyah, the Tawba of the muslim means the past is forgotten as well. Therefore should not count against a person and that person may not need to perform Kazaa prayer.

11- Does Ibn Taimiyyah stop one from doing Kazaa?
Of course not. However, Ibn Taimiyyah worried that asking a muslim too much at the time of Tawba while not asking the same of the Kafir, may run away the muslim from the Tawba.

Take care all and Brother Lumumba, please present your understanding of why the majority thought otherwise. This is not to challenge you nor their views, but to look at all the evidences that are presented.



Posted on 6/7/2006 1:42:28 PM

HiRa....:
kazaa namaz is offered by performing the farz raka'ts of whichever of the five prayers you missed. So speaking in terms of offering kazaa:

Fajr: 2 rakats farz
Zuhr: 4 rakats farz
Asr: 4 rakats farz
Maghrib: 3 rakats farz
Isha: 4 rakats farz

thnx Hira
+3 vitr with Isha prayer

i knwo this way to perform kada but im asking abt an "easier" one that i heard abt...



but i dont agree when u said we dont need to perform alll missed prayers,, its a farz (maafi nahi hoti kissi surat mei)

Posted on 6/7/2006 4:01:12 PM

""""""10- Does that mean that the Tawba of the Muslim from his error should not mean that the past is forgotten and behind us?
To Ibn Taimiyyah, the Tawba of the muslim means the past is forgotten as well. Therefore should not count against a person and that person may not need to perform Kazaa prayer"""""""


didnt get this answer

Posted on 6/7/2006 4:03:09 PM

shahrukh khan:
hira means in kazaa we need to pray just farz...

hum ko samajh aa gai hai
par aap ko hamari baat samajh nahi i shayad

Posted on 6/7/2006 11:08:16 PM

SALL:
me ne kahin suna hai k kazaa namaaz adaa karne ka aik aur tareeka bhi hai
like agar bohot si namazein kazaa ho gai hon to unhein kaise parha jae


Assalam o alaikum,

Well, main nay bhi suna/parha hai kay "itni" rakaat namaz "iss iss tarah" parhain aur phir "ye" tasbeeh/duain parhain to last "itne ya utne" saalon ki missed prayers ka kaffara ho jayega ga. agar aisa kuch hai bhi tu sachi touba say mashroot hai, warna hadees shareef main tu ye hai kay agar hum sari zindagi bhi nawafil ada kartay rahain tu bhi aik missed namaz ka kaffara ada nahi kar saktay.

qaza namaz farz namaz ki replacement nahi hai, na hi is niyyat say parhni chahiye. i think ye tu is liye parhi jati hai kay hadeed shareef main hai kay hisaab kay din jab insaan ki farz namazain kam hoon gi tu Allah un ko nawafil say poora karay ga (for whom He wishes), aur ye qaza namazain (which is identical to nawafil) us din kaam anay ki umeed hai. warna nawafil tu kam log hi parhtay hain.

btw, as far as i know, qaza sirf farz namaz ki hoti hai, is liye Isha kay witr ki qaza nahi, kyunkay wo wajib hain farz nahi. isi tarah Eid ki naazon ki bhi qaza nahi hoti.

Posted on 7/2/2006 10:19:05 PM

buddy ..Asa koi Way nahi hai Jis se sari qaza namaz aik sath ho jain
No 2.Isha ki namaz ager qaza kerain gaaa tu must witar perhain gaa..jasay ager hum zuhar ki namz se pehly ager Fajar ki namaz Qaza kerain gaa tu Must 2 sunnat b perhain gaa,lakin zawal yani zuhar k baad ager Fajar ki namaz Qaza kerain gaa tu bus 2 Farz.............Jo muj ko pata tha Share kiya......Ghalt hai tu Allah Muj ko Mouf keray>Ammen


Badal:
SALL:
me ne kahin suna hai k kazaa namaaz adaa karne ka aik aur tareeka bhi hai
like agar bohot si namazein kazaa ho gai hon to unhein kaise parha jae


Assalam o alaikum,

Well, main nay bhi suna/parha hai kay "itni" rakaat namaz "iss iss tarah" parhain aur phir "ye" tasbeeh/duain parhain to last "itne ya utne" saalon ki missed prayers ka kaffara ho jayega ga. agar aisa kuch hai bhi tu sachi touba say mashroot hai, warna hadees shareef main tu ye hai kay agar hum sari zindagi bhi nawafil ada kartay rahain tu bhi aik missed namaz ka kaffara ada nahi kar saktay.

qaza namaz farz namaz ki replacement nahi hai, na hi is niyyat say parhni chahiye. i think ye tu is liye parhi jati hai kay hadeed shareef main hai kay hisaab kay din jab insaan ki farz namazain kam hoon gi tu Allah un ko nawafil say poora karay ga (for whom He wishes), aur ye qaza namazain (which is identical to nawafil) us din kaam anay ki umeed hai. warna nawafil tu kam log hi parhtay hain.

btw, as far as i know, qaza sirf farz namaz ki hoti hai, is liye Isha kay witr ki qaza nahi, kyunkay wo wajib hain farz nahi. isi tarah Eid ki naazon ki bhi qaza nahi hoti.

Posted on 7/3/2006 1:38:30 AM

thnx Z
but i never said k ITTNNIIII NAMAZON KI KAZAA SAATH HO JAE

nahiiii
jitni kaza hui hein utni hi namazein adaa karni par kuch short kar k
like 4 rakaat ki jaga shayad 2 parh lo
something like that
i know koi nafil koi tasbeeh namaz ki jaga nahi le sakti

Badal:
qaza namaz farz namaz ki replacement nahi hai, na hi is niyyat say parhni chahiye. i think ye tu is liye parhi jati hai kay hadeed shareef main hai kay hisaab kay din jab insaan ki farz namazain kam hoon gi tu Allah un ko nawafil say poora karay ga (for whom He wishes), aur ye qaza namazain (which is identical to nawafil) us din kaam anay ki umeed hai. warna nawafil tu kam log hi parhtay hain.

yeh mujhe nahi pata tha
hmmm,, yani kazaa namaz kafara nahi maafi ka aik tareeka hai
right, its good to know that


hum to vitr bhi parh lete hein

Posted on 7/3/2006 11:02:34 AM

HappyDil:
buddy ..Asa koi Way nahi hai Jis se sari qaza namaz aik sath ho jain
No 2.Isha ki namaz ager qaza kerain gaaa tu must witar perhain gaa..jasay ager hum zuhar ki namz se pehly ager Fajar ki namaz Qaza kerain gaa tu Must 2 sunnat b perhain gaa,lakin zawal yani zuhar k baad ager Fajar ki namaz Qaza kerain gaa tu bus 2 Farz.............Jo muj ko pata tha Share kiya......Ghalt hai tu Allah Muj ko Mouf keray>Ammen

thnx happy
but im not asking AIK SAATH,, i know aik aik kar k hi parhna hota hai

i didnt know abt fajr ki sunnat
thnx

Posted on 7/3/2006 11:04:36 AM

SALL:
HappyDil:
buddy ..Asa koi Way nahi hai Jis se sari qaza namaz aik sath ho jain
No 2.Isha ki namaz ager qaza kerain gaaa tu must witar perhain gaa..jasay ager hum zuhar ki namz se pehly ager Fajar ki namaz Qaza kerain gaa tu Must 2 sunnat b perhain gaa,lakin zawal yani zuhar k baad ager Fajar ki namaz Qaza kerain gaa tu bus 2 Farz.............Jo muj ko pata tha Share kiya......Ghalt hai tu Allah Muj ko Mouf keray>Ammen

thnx happy
but im not asking AIK SAATH,, i know aik aik kar k hi parhna hota hai

i didnt know abt fajr ki sunnat
thnx

You Well come

Posted on 7/28/2006 5:24:35 AM

baat suno mujh say ye na poochhna kay is ki tasdeeq kahan say ho bcz meray pass is ka koi proof nahi may be kisi aur kay pass ho
main nay baron say suna aur daikha hai

QAZA E UMRI

ye ada ki jati hai
ramadan kay last friday ko
din 12 bajay say pehlay
jis main her namaz kay farz alag alag ker kay her baar naye niyyat say perhay jatay hain.sab farz aik aik baar hi perhtay hain.
jis ka maqsad namazon ki pooray saal ki qaza hai
lakin is ka ye matlab nahin kay jaan boojh kay chhori hui namaz ki qaza bhi ho jati hai

Baqi qabool kernay wala Allah hai

Posted on 8/2/2006 3:35:28 PM

heyy queeenu sahi se samajh nahi aaya yar
can u explain plz

12 baje se pehle last friday of ramadan
aik saal ki itni jaldi kaise parhi ja sakti hai namaz ??

Posted on 8/14/2006 1:01:31 PM

never heard of it.

Posted on 8/15/2006 10:55:09 PM

sall main nay bhi logon say suna hai
her namaz kay FARZ (jitnay bhi hotaya hain)
sab ki aik aik baar perhtay hain
jaisay fajar kay do farz sari fajar qaza ki numaindagi aik baar do farz perhnay say ho gi
ab samjhi?

Posted on 8/17/2006 2:26:31 PM

good friends

Posted on 8/17/2006 6:26:59 PM

SALL:
yeh mujhe nahi pata tha
hmmm,, yani kazaa namaz kafara nahi maafi ka aik tareeka hai
right, its good to know that


hum to vitr bhi parh lete hein


haan, kaffara nahi hai, jis tarah aik rozay (fasting) kay kaffaraa ka aik tareeka 60 rozay hain, namaz ziada imp obligation hai, iss ka kaffara hota tu kam az kam 60 times tu hota. laikin nahi hai kyun namaz ka kaffara possible nahi hai, Allah apni rehmat say maaf farma day bas.

>> QAZA E UMRI <<

main bhi isi ki baat kar raha tha, ye shaid kisi zaeef hadith main hi milay ya phir kisi buzurg kay khawb main ( ), laikin in par zaeef aitaqad kay log hi amal kartay hain. ye tareeka shaid kisi nay is liye ghara ho ga kay log bas saal main aik din hi namaaz parhain (QAZA E UMRI) aur baki saal namaz say door rahain.

Fajar ki sunnat aur Isha kay witr ka masla tu aur hai, i think ye subject nahi tha. par koi ye bataye kay fajar kay sunnat tu fajar ka hissa hain, kia witr bhi isha ka hissa hain?

(Ab tu maheenay main aik baar hi post karnay ka moqa milta hai )

Posted on 8/17/2006 10:26:50 PM

hamara aik mulla to jamat k sath qazay umri prhata tha.
its so stupid yar ye to KHUDA ko thagne wali bat hui
besides i dont think there is any short way of saying missed prayers.jab 500 udhar lia ho to 500 hi wapis kerna hota he.ager 4 ki jaga 2 farz parhne hain to phir 2 perhne ki bhi kya zaroorat.ALLAH YUNHI BAKHSH DE GA
aur badal bhai himmat koshish ker k maheenay main kam az kam 2chakar to laga lia karo meri tarah.

Posted on 8/17/2006 10:43:22 PM