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ISLAM, QADIANISM AND SHIAISM

kiran:
salaam shareef sahab..i am kiran i am now allah ke fazal se ahmadi-muslim, i like it.


Dont be so quick. You may be betrayed from the right. You have not considered sunni muslims views, you are just overhelmed by the arguments of DS/DL. You may consult our scholars in this regard and they will satisfy you.

Posted on 6/28/2005 6:08:37 AM

Bazigaar:
is kiran and loota same person?


Dont be so suspicious...

Posted on 6/28/2005 6:09:30 AM

djeedja lotta:
Cute_gal:
Qadianism
Verses pertaining to Jihaad have been abrogated by the Wahy revealed to Ghulam Ahmad. He has in addition to the Qur'an, received Wahy, which is as important as the Qur'an.(Astugfirullah)...sarasar jhoot, no ahmadi-muslim believes this.

No ahmadi believes this? how come, when your prophet himself says this. read it (Roohani Khazaen, vol 16, p 28):




Qadianism
The Prophet had been sent twice to the world. The first time he appeared in Makkah, in the form of Muhammad and the second time in Qadian in the form of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. (Astugfirullah)...itna barra aur sarasar jhoot, no ahmadi-muslim believes this. we even dont know ke konsi gupp maari hai.

Ye gupp mari hai, read this:

Ek Ghalati Ka Izala

The Removal of a Misunderstanding
by Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (a.s.), the Promised Messiah and Mahdi

http://www.alislam.org/books/misunderstandingremoved.html

I am the image of the KHATAM-AN-NABIYYIN and his alter-ego. Twenty years ago as published in the BRAHEEN-I-AHMADIYYA, God called me Muhammad and Ahmad and declared my advent to be the Holy Prophet's own coming. Thus my prophethood in no way clashes with the status of the Holy Prophet as KHATAM-AL-ANBIYA because the shadow is inseparable from the original and in an allegorical sense I am the same Muhammad.


Qadianism
The same Kalimah as the Muslims, except that Muhammad in the Kalimah refers to Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.(Astugfirullah)... jhoot ki bhi koi hadd hoti hai yaar, har ahmadi-muslim ka kalima yehi hai, la ilaha illa allah, muhammad ur rasoolu allah. phir bhi jhoot par jhoot, propaganda

Look at this, how your prophet inserts himself in Kalimah (Kalimatul fasl page 158)




Qadianism
Obedience to Allah, obedience to English government.... just first part is the treust one. we are obedient to only Allah. nothing more. baaqi sabb gupps.

baki gupp kay baray main apnay prophet say khud sun lain (Roohani Khazaen, vol 15, p 155)




Qadianism
'The companions ate cheese from the Christians, although it was well known that it contained pigs, fat'. Faatima (Radhiallaahu Anhu) appeared to Ghulam Ahmad in a revealed state.(Astugfirullah)... ajeeb si stories hain, kuch. kissi ahmadi-muslim ko to pata bhi nahi inn jhoots ka. tafseeli jawab in urdu on the link at the end. itne barre barre jhoot yaar.

Well i think it isnt true

GHULAM AHMAD QADIANI
CLAIMS IN CHRONOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVES
.... aur is chronology ki kya baat hai, siraf aap ko hi in baton ka ilm hai, aur kissi ko nahi. haha sarasar jhoot,

jo oopar dikhaya wo kafi hai ya is "sarasar jhoot" ko bhi with refference post karoon?


Posted on 6/28/2005 6:11:11 AM

@badal
yaar badal sahib itni bhi na chorra karo. i cant helo u, if u dont understand the context and religios books. ooper jo aap ne ajeeb si interpretations ki hain unn ka jawab to sara quran me likha hua hai.

well aap se behas karna ka mujhe koi shauq nahi, kioN ke iss muamle me aap ko maiN apni raaye de chuka hun kay aap ko sabb kuch samjha sakta hun, pehle aik massla clear karo.

is hazrat isa (as) dead or not? and other questions i mentioned before.

and now i ask u kindly, just give me ur five most powerfull arguments against Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. and i will try to talk about them. coz otherwise we will loose us in the propaganda-war, which u are making against Ahmadiyyat here. thanks for ur patience.


@bazigaar
chadd yaar, rehn de.

Please read this note about my opinion

Posted on 6/28/2005 4:22:35 PM


@ LAST of this topic ....

WE do respect of all religions and nothing against to any one.

but i've a good solution k we are not here to debate arguments and prove k which one of the Religion is on Truth or Which is not.

so short discussion in short

This is not a place for Propaganda-war against anyone.

if you (any one of ya ... Muslim, Qadiyani or Shiaism) have some questions

plz contact with religious scholoar for all these quries and arguments.

i guess they will be equiped to give satisfactory reply with exect references.

Thanks you

Posted on 6/29/2005 4:27:47 PM