Saddam Hussein has been captured alive

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Eight months after the fall of his government, former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein was captured by U.S. forces near his hometown, Tikrit, where he was hiding in a hole in the ground at a modest farmhouse, U.S. officials said Sunday.

The arrest, which was managed without a single shot being fired, was a major victory for the coalition, which has been battling an insurgency for months, and for President Bush, who has fended off criticism for failing to find the toppled Iraqi leader.

Saddam, 66, evaded capture and assassination attempts since the U.S.-led coalition invaded Iraq on March 20. But Sunday morning, Bush was able to make a proclamation the White House had awaited for months: “Yesterday, December the 13th, at around 8:30 p.m. Baghdad time, United States military forces captured Saddam Hussein alive.”

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The U.S. administrator in Iraq, L. Paul Bremer, said Saddam was captured in the town of Adwar, 10 miles south of Tikrit, ending one of the most intense manhunts in history. Adwar holds special significance for Saddam; it is where he swam to freedom while wounded, his official biography says, after he tried but failed to assassinate President Abdul Karim Qassem in 1959.

U.S. military officials told NBC News that while Saddam appeared disoriented at first, "he wouldn't stop talking" once he got his bearings. "He was so tired of running,” one official said.

Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, who saw Saddam overnight, confirmed the deposed leader was cooperative. He described Saddam as "a tired man, a man resigned to his fate."

Addressing the nation Sunday, Bush promised "the former dictator of Iraq will face the justice he denied to millions. In the history of Iraq, a dark and painful era is over. A hopeful day has arrived."

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Saddam would get the protections of a prisoner of war, with his treatment “governed by the Geneva convention.” But he also said it was too soon to make "snap decisions" about Saddam's fate.

"Here is a man who has killed so many tens of thousands, who will have to be held accountable and brought to justice in some form and some way,” Rumsfeld said in an interview with "60 Minutes."

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Sanchez said U.S. authorities had yet to determine whether to turn Saddam over to a new Iraqi tribunal for trial. But Ahmad Chalabi, the outspoken leader of the Iraqi National Congress, said Saddam would be soon handed over to the Iraqi people for trial.

"It won’t be very long before a court case is prepared," he told BBC radio.

Chalabi and three other senior figures in the new Iraqi leadership visited Saddam early Sunday morning, along with Bremer and other U.S. officials, according to several reports.

"He was defiant" during the visit, Adnan Pachachi, an Iraqi Governing Council member and former foreign minister before Saddam took power, told the Washington Post. "He tried to justify his crimes by saying he was a just ruler."

A weary Saddam
U.S. forces aired a video showing a bearded Saddam being examined by a doctor who held his mouth open with a tongue depressor, apparently to get a DNA sample. They showed a photograph of Saddam after his face was shaved. U.S. military officials told NBC News he suffered a slight head injury.

Sanchez would not disclose where Saddam was being held. Dubai-based Al-Arabiya television reported he had been taken to Qatar for security reasons. The report could not immediately be confirmed and other reports speculated he was being kept at Baghdad International Airport, where many prisoners are guarded by U.S. troops.

"This success brings closure to the Iraqi people," Sanchez said. "Saddam Hussein will never return to a position of power from which he can punish, terrorize, intimidate and exploit the Iraqi people as he did for more than 35 years."

It also provides closure for Bush. Despite a $25 million bounty on his head, Saddam remained a political thorn in the president's side and an inspiration to anti-U.S. insurgents. The U.S.-led coalition sent out thousands of soldiers to search for him from its headquarters in the sprawling, gold-edged Republican Palace compound in Baghdad.

Even as he sounded a note of victory, Bush warned Saddam's capture "does not mean the end of violence in Iraq. We still face terrorists who would rather go on killing the innocent than accept the rise of liberty in the heart of the Middle East."

Many world leaders welcomed the news, including British Prime Minister Tony Blair. "Where his rule meant terror and division and brutality," Blair said, "let his capture bring about unity, reconciliation and peace."

Bush's potential opponents in next year's elections also offered praise, albeit tempered.

U.S. commanders believe Saddam, though in hiding, played a role in guerrilla violence that has killed hundreds of soldiers and civilians in Iraq.

In the latest attack early Monday, car bombs went off outside police stations around Baghdad, injuring at least four people. It was the second such attack in 24 hours.

Operation Red Dawn
Forces from the Army's 4th Infantry Division along with Special Forces captured Saddam, the U.S. military said. There were no shots fired or injuries in the raid, which was called Operation Red Dawn, Sanchez said.

A Pentagon diagram showed the hiding place as a 6-foot-deep vertical "spider hole," with a shorter tunnel branching out horizontally from one side. A pipe to the concrete surface at ground level provided air. The entrance to the hideout was under the floor of a small, walled compound with a room in one corner and a lean-to attached to the room.

The hideout was across a river from one of Saddam’s palaces, roughly in the middle of the compound.

He was just caught like a rat," U.S. Maj. Gen. Ray Odierno told reporters there. "It is rather ironic that he was in a hole in the ground across the river from these great palaces he built."

Saddam admitted his identity when he was captured. Sanchez said that two men affiliated with him were detained and that soldiers confiscated two Kalashnikov rifles, a pistol, a taxi and $750,000 in $100 U.S. bills.

A U.S. commander told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity that U.S. troops also discovered “descriptive written material of significant value.”

The official would not say whether the material related to resistance efforts, but Time magazine, quoting a U.S. intelligence official, said soldiers found a briefcase with a letter from a Baghdad resistance leader. Time also reported that after his capture, Saddam denied he had weapons of mass destruction and said the United States used them as a pretense to wage war.

The operation to nab the deposed Iraqi leader was based on information from a family “close to him,” Odierno said. But U.S. military officials told NBC News it was unlikely the informer would be eligible for the $25 million bounty on Saddam's head because he was a U.S. captive likely to face charges himself.

Celebrations, skepticism from Iraqis
Celebratory gunfire erupted in the capital, and shop owners closed their doors, fearful that the shooting would make the streets unsafe. The scene echoed one on July 22, after Saddam's sons Qusai and Odai were killed in a four-hour gunbattle with U.S. troops.

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Iraqis in the southern city of Nasiriyah sprayed soft drinks Sunday to celebrate the capture Saddam.
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"I'm very happy for the Iraqi people. Life is going to be safer now," said Yehya Hassan, 35, of Baghdad. "Now we can start a new beginning."

"This is the joy of a lifetime," said Ali Al-Bashiri, another resident.

In Tikrit, U.S. soldiers lit up cigars."The intimidation and fear this man generated for over 30 years are now gone," Odierno said.

In the northern city of Kirkuk, shots were fired in the air as residents rejoiced — but those shots killed eight and wounded 80 more, a hospital official told the AP.

Elsewhere, some Iraqis still loyal to Saddam were distraught at the news. In the city of Mosul, where attacks on American troops have particularly intense, Noha Fakhri wanted to cry.

"I love Saddam," she said. "I had hope that he might return to power, but now I know he won't."

Others remained skeptical that the man who exerted his iron will over the nation's resident had been caught. "I heard the news, but I'll believe it when I see it," said Mohaned al-Hasaji of Baghdad. "They need to show us that they really have him."

NBC's Tom Aspell in Baghdad, Jim Miklaszewski, Andrea Mitchell and Joel Seidman in Washington, and Robert Windrem in New York; The Associated Press and Reuters contributed to this report.

Posted on 12/15/2003 4:25:22 PM

slik chik

yo folks, its da real deal people! y does everybody think that its impossible to cathc a person?
get real people! have u guys seen da video? duh!
n as for the fake sadams, well, there might be sum but tink bout it, u tink dat after sadam is a total goner and has no importance now, they wud still be goin roundbeing loyal to him! noway man, they only did it fo da money if they did exist! hard to think that they loved the guy!
sum of u seem to be in favour of sadam as if he hasnt done nothin! dont foget people, hes the reason for the innocent 2.5 to 3 million lives lost during his reign!
a bastard like him doesnt deserve anything less thaN being sent to the gallows!
n sum people considered him a murdh ka bucha! hahahah! as if! if he had a bit of shame, dignity and selfrespect, he wud have killed himself before letting the usa army capture him! now hes looking like the most embarrased fool in them video footages! i duno bout america and all, but the point is that, no matter wat anybody sez, the americans are nowhere near as bad as sadam! i agree they wanted to get something outa this but honestly speaking, they dont have the guts to stoop down to sadams level, becuz, if they do so, there own public will be the first to go against them!

Posted on 12/15/2003 5:33:21 PM

madmax

fake hay sab

Posted on 12/15/2003 7:04:34 PM

Ashii

areyyyy yaroo.. kahe ka jhagra hai
even if he s the fake one, aur even wo pakra na bhi jata.. wot does it change,, just think for a momemnt...
SADDAM IS FINISHED,, KHATAMMM, KHALLAASSS, FINI, FINITTOOS..

alive or dead.. fake or real. caught or nottt..
DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE ??????
NOOO..

but one thing is clear.. he s been caught coz US want him to b caught NOW.. position clear up bhi to karna hota hai.. just to take 'ONE MORE CREDIT'

the real problem isssss.. WHO LL TAKE HIS PLACE ?¿

dont let media manipulate ur opinions..
WE ALL TRY TO LOOK FOR A RIGHT ANSWER, but LEARN TO ASK RITE QUESTIONS TOO YAAAAARRAAA..

Posted on 12/15/2003 7:19:24 PM

SaPnA

Posted on 12/15/2003 9:07:59 PM

PumpKin

Posted on 12/15/2003 9:27:19 PM

madmax

Posted on 12/15/2003 11:18:50 PM

Cute_gal

shahrukh khan:
haan yehi tu in ka kaam<< in ko kabhi kamyabi nahi milegey<< Inshallah MUSLIMS WILL BEAT THEM.

i donno wat ya tryna prove hea......

Posted on 12/16/2003 5:53:48 AM

madmax

Cute_gal:

shahrukh khan:
haan yehi tu in ka kaam<< in ko kabhi kamyabi nahi milegey<< Inshallah MUSLIMS WILL BEAT THEM.

i donno wat ya tryna prove hea......

well its quite clear

Posted on 12/16/2003 10:57:07 AM

slik chik

shahrukh khan:
fake saddam, HUME PAGAL BANA REH HAIN YAHUDI. DEKHANE KE LIYE KE HUM NE KUCH KIYA HAI. I KNOW HE IS NOT SADDAM, YAHUDI HOTE HI HAI ONEERLIJK,WO AUR SACH

yeah, man, keep livin in ur little fantasy of denial!
n y do u guys have to bring in religion to everything, yahudi this yahudi that?
for gods sakes, how did u guys like it wen everybody thought all muslims were the replicas of osama bin laden?
sheesh, u guys really bug me big time!

Posted on 12/16/2003 1:39:37 PM

flawless

i juss sed dont categorise people by their religion! ive got jewish friends n they wud neva think anything bad bout anybody, be it a muslim or watever!
n even if they r tryin to seperate the muslims from each other, then that only prooves on thing, that our imaan is very weak, which is prob the reason all us muslim are never able to unite with each other! so that means, we are at fault before them.
if we used our heads and werent letting people make our lives miserable, even though u know its their intention to do so, then they wouldnt be able to do it!
u do u think nobody can plot against the americans n all, y hasnt anybody succeedded in breaking them away from each other, becuz they are united in the right sense, unlike us, jahan humara faida, wahan he apni help offer kernay chulay jatein hein!

Posted on 12/16/2003 2:44:22 PM

new_beau

Posted on 12/16/2003 4:09:24 PM

flawless

kewl, u went n did ur homework on dis didnt u nb?!
lolz!

Posted on 12/16/2003 4:17:24 PM

madmax

bilkul

Posted on 12/16/2003 6:16:49 PM

IMAN

slik chik:
yo folks, its da real deal people! y does everybody think that its impossible to cathc a person?
get real people! have u guys seen da video? duh!
n as for the fake sadams, well, there might be sum but tink bout it, u tink dat after sadam is a total goner and has no importance now, they wud still be goin roundbeing loyal to him! noway man, they only did it fo da money if they did exist! hard to think that they loved the guy!
sum of u seem to be in favour of sadam as if he hasnt done nothin! dont foget people, hes the reason for the innocent 2.5 to 3 million lives lost during his reign!
a bastard like him doesnt deserve anything less thaN being sent to the gallows!
n sum people considered him a murdh ka bucha! hahahah! as if! if he had a bit of shame, dignity and selfrespect, he wud have killed himself before letting the usa army capture him! now hes looking like the most embarrased fool in them video footages! i duno bout america and all, but the point is that, no matter wat anybody sez, the americans are nowhere near as bad as sadam! i agree they wanted to get something outa this but honestly speaking, they dont have the guts to stoop down to sadams level, becuz, if they do so, there own public will be the first to go against them!

you don't know the truth...no one does ..about what really happened..okay so don't say all thouse bad stuff about him...u know all shias are aginst saddam and all sunni are really sad right now....shias say that he was a bad guy n sunni's really like him now no one knows what the real truth is except allah....and about why didn't he kill himself before getting captured u know i was wondering the same thing but then u know what they did they knew he is hiding there they did't get him right away when they found out ...saddam's daughter said the soldiers were spraying gas from which saddam was not able to do anything he is old now yaar his two sons died now that's a big TRAGEDY okay...leave the guy alone...were muslims and we r saying bad stuff about him we don't know what he went through the bad thing is why did he get captured i don't know about u ppl but i feel really sorry for him i dind't wanted this to happen....n SADDAM was a brave man...he was in a military...he was the prime minister of iraq for 30 years....aur agar saadam ney log marey hain tu kya bush ney kam marey hain by attacking afghanistan for no damn reason!!

and kuhdkushi is HAram agar apney app ko marta tu haram ki mot marta..

I feel sorry for him... He looks so old and weak. Allah help him if hes innocent. IMAN37972.1879166667

Posted on 12/17/2003 4:04:29 AM

Zuhra1

yes iman i agree with you
i feel sorry for him too

Posted on 12/17/2003 4:35:56 AM

slik chik

IMAN:

slik chik:
yo folks, its da real deal people! y does everybody think that its impossible to cathc a person?
get real people! have u guys seen da video? duh!
n as for the fake sadams, well, there might be sum but tink bout it, u tink dat after sadam is a total goner and has no importance now, they wud still be goin roundbeing loyal to him! noway man, they only did it fo da money if they did exist! hard to think that they loved the guy!
sum of u seem to be in favour of sadam as if he hasnt done nothin! dont foget people, hes the reason for the innocent 2.5 to 3 million lives lost during his reign!
a bastard like him doesnt deserve anything less thaN being sent to the gallows!
n sum people considered him a murdh ka bucha! hahahah! as if! if he had a bit of shame, dignity and selfrespect, he wud have killed himself before letting the usa army capture him! now hes looking like the most embarrased fool in them video footages! i duno bout america and all, but the point is that, no matter wat anybody sez, the americans are nowhere near as bad as sadam! i agree they wanted to get something outa this but honestly speaking, they dont have the guts to stoop down to sadams level, becuz, if they do so, there own public will be the first to go against them!

you don't know the truth...no one does ..about what really happened..okay so don't say all thouse bad stuff about him...u know all shias are aginst saddam and all sunni are really sad right now....shias say that he was a bad guy n sunni's really like him now no one knows what the real truth is except allah....and about why didn't he kill himself before getting captured u know i was wondering the same thing but then u know what they did they knew he is hiding there they did't get him right away when they found out ...saddam's daughter said the soldiers were spraying gas from which saddam was not able to do anything he is old now yaar his two sons died now that's a big TRAGEDY okay...leave the guy alone...were muslims and we r saying bad stuff about him we don't know what he went through the bad thing is why did he get captured i don't know about u ppl but i feel really sorry for him i dind't wanted this to happen....n SADDAM was a brave man...he was in a military...he was the prime minister of iraq for 30 years....aur agar saadam ney log marey hain tu kya bush ney kam marey hain by attacking afghanistan for no damn reason!!

and kuhdkushi is HAram agar apney app ko marta tu haram ki mot marta.. I feel sorry for him... He looks so old and weak. Allah help him if hes innocent.

I STILL HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR HIM WAT SO EVER!
HES A MUSLIM, DAT DONT MEAN HE CAN GO AROUND KILLING PEOPLE AND EXPECT TO GAIN SYMPATHY AFTERWARDS!

N WAT DO U MEAN IMAAN, I DONT KNOW WAT HAPPENED!EVERYBODY KNOWS WAT HAPPENED.I HAVE FAMILY FRNDZ HERE IN IRELAND WHO ARE FROM IRAQ AND WHO HAVE LOST HALF OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS DUE TO SADAMS CRUELTY! ONE OF THERE SISTERS DAUGHTER WAS RAPED AND THEN KILLED BY ONE OF SADAMS SONS AND HIS MEN!
WUD U STILL PITY HIM AND SAY AWWWW, DATS OK, MY DAUGHTER IS DEAD NOW, HES A HUMAN BEING AND HES A MUSLIM!
IF U START PITYING ALL MUSLIMS JUSS FOR THE REASON THAT THEY R MUSLIMS, DEN WAT THE HELL DO WE NEED THE JAILS AND POLICE FOR?
SURE, WE'L JUSS LET EVERYONE GO ON A KILLING SPREE AND LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE THEY R MUSLIMS!

ALLAH HAS THE SAME PUNISHMENT FOR MUSLIMS AS HE HAS FOR NON MUSLIMS FOR COMMITING SUCH SINFUL ACTS!

ITS VERY EASY TO TALK ABOUT FORGIVNESS IMAAN BUT, IF U THINK BOUT IT IN RELATION TO URSELF, THATS WEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH!
AND DONT FORGETS, ITS A GUNNAH TO LET SOMEONE GET AWAY WITH MISTREATING U ASWELL!AND IM NOT JUSS BULLsh*tTING FROM MASELF, I WAS TOLD THAT BY MY AUNT, WHO HAPPENS TO BE AN ALLIMA!

SUM OF U GUYS REALLY DO AMAZE ME! SHEESH!

Posted on 12/17/2003 3:21:34 PM

madmax

well slick why r u against saddam what has he done to you just nothing i think well so what u think about bush and blair we all wanna hear your coments on them too

Posted on 12/17/2003 3:35:22 PM

slik chik

I HATE ALL THEM BASTERDS! BE IT BUSH, BLAIR, SADAM OR BIN LADEN!
THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE WITH OUT ALLA THEM!
N WATCHA MEAN WAT HAS HE DONE TO ME?
Y DONT YA TINK IN DA TERMS THAT WAT DID HE DO TO ALL DEM INNOCENT PEOPLE?
U GUYS ARE EXTREMELY HEARTLESS, SORRY TO SAY!
EVERYONE IS ALWAYS THING, ME, ME AND MORE ME!
DATS OUR PROBLEM, WE DONT LOOK OUT O EACH OTHER, N DATS Y WE R ALL IN THIS DISGRACEFUL STATE OF SITUATIONS!

Posted on 12/17/2003 3:40:54 PM

IMAN

slik chik:

IMAN:

slik chik:
yo folks, its da real deal people! y does everybody think that its impossible to cathc a person?
get real people! have u guys seen da video? duh!
n as for the fake sadams, well, there might be sum but tink bout it, u tink dat after sadam is a total goner and has no importance now, they wud still be goin roundbeing loyal to him! noway man, they only did it fo da money if they did exist! hard to think that they loved the guy!
sum of u seem to be in favour of sadam as if he hasnt done nothin! dont foget people, hes the reason for the innocent 2.5 to 3 million lives lost during his reign!
a bastard like him doesnt deserve anything less thaN being sent to the gallows!
n sum people considered him a murdh ka bucha! hahahah! as if! if he had a bit of shame, dignity and selfrespect, he wud have killed himself before letting the usa army capture him! now hes looking like the most embarrased fool in them video footages! i duno bout america and all, but the point is that, no matter wat anybody sez, the americans are nowhere near as bad as sadam! i agree they wanted to get something outa this but honestly speaking, they dont have the guts to stoop down to sadams level, becuz, if they do so, there own public will be the first to go against them!

you don't know the truth...no one does ..about what really happened..okay so don't say all thouse bad stuff about him...u know all shias are aginst saddam and all sunni are really sad right now....shias say that he was a bad guy n sunni's really like him now no one knows what the real truth is except allah....and about why didn't he kill himself before getting captured u know i was wondering the same thing but then u know what they did they knew he is hiding there they did't get him right away when they found out ...saddam's daughter said the soldiers were spraying gas from which saddam was not able to do anything he is old now yaar his two sons died now that's a big TRAGEDY okay...leave the guy alone...were muslims and we r saying bad stuff about him we don't know what he went through the bad thing is why did he get captured i don't know about u ppl but i feel really sorry for him i dind't wanted this to happen....n SADDAM was a brave man...he was in a military...he was the prime minister of iraq for 30 years....aur agar saadam ney log marey hain tu kya bush ney kam marey hain by attacking afghanistan for no damn reason!!

and kuhdkushi is HAram agar apney app ko marta tu haram ki mot marta.. I feel sorry for him... He looks so old and weak. Allah help him if hes innocent.

I STILL HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR HIM WAT SO EVER!
HES A MUSLIM, DAT DONT MEAN HE CAN GO AROUND KILLING PEOPLE AND EXPECT TO GAIN SYMPATHY AFTERWARDS!

N WAT DO U MEAN IMAAN, I DONT KNOW WAT HAPPENED!EVERYBODY KNOWS WAT HAPPENED.I HAVE FAMILY FRNDZ HERE IN IRELAND WHO ARE FROM IRAQ AND WHO HAVE LOST HALF OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS DUE TO SADAMS CRUELTY! ONE OF THERE SISTERS DAUGHTER WAS RAPED AND THEN KILLED BY ONE OF SADAMS SONS AND HIS MEN!
WUD U STILL PITY HIM AND SAY AWWWW, DATS OK, MY DAUGHTER IS DEAD NOW, HES A HUMAN BEING AND HES A MUSLIM!
IF U START PITYING ALL MUSLIMS JUSS FOR THE REASON THAT THEY R MUSLIMS, DEN WAT THE HELL DO WE NEED THE JAILS AND POLICE FOR?
SURE, WE'L JUSS LET EVERYONE GO ON A KILLING SPREE AND LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE THEY R MUSLIMS!

ALLAH HAS THE SAME PUNISHMENT FOR MUSLIMS AS HE HAS FOR NON MUSLIMS FOR COMMITING SUCH SINFUL ACTS!

ITS VERY EASY TO TALK ABOUT FORGIVNESS IMAAN BUT, IF U THINK BOUT IT IN RELATION TO URSELF, THATS WEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH!
AND DONT FORGETS, ITS A GUNNAH TO LET SOMEONE GET AWAY WITH MISTREATING U ASWELL!AND IM NOT JUSS BULLsh*tTING FROM MASELF, I WAS TOLD THAT BY MY AUNT, WHO HAPPENS TO BE AN ALLIMA!

SUM OF U GUYS REALLY DO AMAZE ME! SHEESH!

Okay you know what I’ll agree with what u said that saddam has done bad stuff okay but listen 4get about what he is done …hai tu wo eik insaan hai my friend aur dhook yeh hota hai ke wo pakra kyon gaya …n I thing everything that ppl say saadam has done its really not him it was his sons….aur agar saddam ney borey kam ke yeh hain tu achey bhi tu ke yeh hongey na I would never prey for someone to get hurt or to get kelled no matter how bad they are cuase u never knew ALLAH ki nazar mein maybe saddam bohat acha ho you neverknow okay…you can’t say he has done so much bad stuff so he is bad ….maybe he did do some good deeds too don’t juss look at person’s negative side or start saying bad stuff about the person who u don’t actually know ….and now say whatever u want to about saddam im not saying nothing….but u know what don’t say nothing about OSAMA BIN LADEN …he wanted peace and he still wants peace for phalstine ppl from America … but I know ur gonna say what kind of way is this t get peace …but this is the real way to get pieces..phalestine mein itney log martey hain torey saey trade center mein mar gaiy tu kaun se qayamat agiy….what ever is happeing in phalestine is it cause og osama…NO…cuz of saddam…NO its cause of isreal …isreal never wants peace ….u sound like ur in favor of America….or any related country to that…okay if saddam was killing is own ppl…who the hell cares it was his country he was the prime minister why the hell was America getting so hyped up for America bombed his country for know damn reason…he had no weapons. America took all of iraq’s oil..aurs saddam sey bhi bohrey log duniya mein aiy hain…me n u we can’t judge know one its only allah..

Posted on 12/18/2003 4:23:07 AM

handsome_gujjar

ImaN ji

SLIK man i don't know how you can hate osama bin laden all my muslim sisters and bro's love him..this ain't cuz of osama u want peace well u know what u ain't getting peace no where this world was a disaster even before osama man you think your the smartest one here about you guys amaze me whats amazing huh your one of thouse poeple even if there wrong they will never say there wrong yoo don't talk man your talking nonsense tu ghuda nahin hai jo yeh patey ga key saddam guilty hai yaan nahin maybe u'll go to HELL and saddam will go to heaven who knows i'll be the first one laughing

and i can't believe some people on this forum are so quiet and listeinig to your nonsense yoo talk guyz ....your scared of em or what

btw iman gi your a devdasy hey i'm devdas
how about it..lol

Posted on 12/18/2003 4:30:24 AM

slik chik

IMAN:

slik chik:

IMAN:

slik chik:
yo folks, its da real deal people! y does everybody think that its impossible to cathc a person?
get real people! have u guys seen da video? duh!
n as for the fake sadams, well, there might be sum but tink bout it, u tink dat after sadam is a total goner and has no importance now, they wud still be goin roundbeing loyal to him! noway man, they only did it fo da money if they did exist! hard to think that they loved the guy!
sum of u seem to be in favour of sadam as if he hasnt done nothin! dont foget people, hes the reason for the innocent 2.5 to 3 million lives lost during his reign!
a bastard like him doesnt deserve anything less thaN being sent to the gallows!
n sum people considered him a murdh ka bucha! hahahah! as if! if he had a bit of shame, dignity and selfrespect, he wud have killed himself before letting the usa army capture him! now hes looking like the most embarrased fool in them video footages! i duno bout america and all, but the point is that, no matter wat anybody sez, the americans are nowhere near as bad as sadam! i agree they wanted to get something outa this but honestly speaking, they dont have the guts to stoop down to sadams level, becuz, if they do so, there own public will be the first to go against them!

you don't know the truth...no one does ..about what really happened..okay so don't say all thouse bad stuff about him...u know all shias are aginst saddam and all sunni are really sad right now....shias say that he was a bad guy n sunni's really like him now no one knows what the real truth is except allah....and about why didn't he kill himself before getting captured u know i was wondering the same thing but then u know what they did they knew he is hiding there they did't get him right away when they found out ...saddam's daughter said the soldiers were spraying gas from which saddam was not able to do anything he is old now yaar his two sons died now that's a big TRAGEDY okay...leave the guy alone...were muslims and we r saying bad stuff about him we don't know what he went through the bad thing is why did he get captured i don't know about u ppl but i feel really sorry for him i dind't wanted this to happen....n SADDAM was a brave man...he was in a military...he was the prime minister of iraq for 30 years....aur agar saadam ney log marey hain tu kya bush ney kam marey hain by attacking afghanistan for no damn reason!!

and kuhdkushi is HAram agar apney app ko marta tu haram ki mot marta.. I feel sorry for him... He looks so old and weak. Allah help him if hes innocent.

I STILL HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR HIM WAT SO EVER!
HES A MUSLIM, DAT DONT MEAN HE CAN GO AROUND KILLING PEOPLE AND EXPECT TO GAIN SYMPATHY AFTERWARDS!

N WAT DO U MEAN IMAAN, I DONT KNOW WAT HAPPENED!EVERYBODY KNOWS WAT HAPPENED.I HAVE FAMILY FRNDZ HERE IN IRELAND WHO ARE FROM IRAQ AND WHO HAVE LOST HALF OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS DUE TO SADAMS CRUELTY! ONE OF THERE SISTERS DAUGHTER WAS RAPED AND THEN KILLED BY ONE OF SADAMS SONS AND HIS MEN!
WUD U STILL PITY HIM AND SAY AWWWW, DATS OK, MY DAUGHTER IS DEAD NOW, HES A HUMAN BEING AND HES A MUSLIM!
IF U START PITYING ALL MUSLIMS JUSS FOR THE REASON THAT THEY R MUSLIMS, DEN WAT THE HELL DO WE NEED THE JAILS AND POLICE FOR?
SURE, WE'L JUSS LET EVERYONE GO ON A KILLING SPREE AND LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE THEY R MUSLIMS!

ALLAH HAS THE SAME PUNISHMENT FOR MUSLIMS AS HE HAS FOR NON MUSLIMS FOR COMMITING SUCH SINFUL ACTS!

ITS VERY EASY TO TALK ABOUT FORGIVNESS IMAAN BUT, IF U THINK BOUT IT IN RELATION TO URSELF, THATS WEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH!
AND DONT FORGETS, ITS A GUNNAH TO LET SOMEONE GET AWAY WITH MISTREATING U ASWELL!AND IM NOT JUSS BULLsh*tTING FROM MASELF, I WAS TOLD THAT BY MY AUNT, WHO HAPPENS TO BE AN ALLIMA!

SUM OF U GUYS REALLY DO AMAZE ME! SHEESH!

Okay you know what I’ll agree with what u said that saddam has done bad stuff okay but listen 4get about what he is done …hai tu wo eik insaan hai my friend aur dhook yeh hota hai ke wo pakra kyon gaya …n I thing everything that ppl say saadam has done its really not him it was his sons….aur agar saddam ney borey kam ke yeh hain tu achey bhi tu ke yeh hongey na I would never prey for someone to get hurt or to get kelled no matter how bad they are cuase u never knew ALLAH ki nazar mein maybe saddam bohat acha ho you neverknow okay…you can’t say he has done so much bad stuff so he is bad ….maybe he did do some good deeds too don’t juss look at person’s negative side or start saying bad stuff about the person who u don’t actually know ….and now say whatever u want to about saddam im not saying nothing….but u know what don’t say nothing about OSAMA BIN LADEN …he wanted peace and he still wants peace for phalstine ppl from America … but I know ur gonna say what kind of way is this t get peace …but this is the real way to get pieces..phalestine mein itney log martey hain torey saey trade center mein mar gaiy tu kaun se qayamat agiy….what ever is happeing in phalestine is it cause og osama…NO…cuz of saddam…NO its cause of isreal …isreal never wants peace ….u sound like ur in favor of America….or any related country to that…okay if saddam was killing is own ppl…who the hell cares it was his country he was the prime minister why the hell was America getting so hyped up for America bombed his country for know damn reason…he had no weapons. America took all of iraq’s oil..aurs saddam sey bhi bohrey log duniya mein aiy hain…me n u we can’t judge know one its only allah..

aur agar saddam ney borey kam ke yeh hain tu achey bhi tu ke yeh hongey oh my god, saddam nein achay kaam keyay hongay?
toubaa, agar uss ne uchay kaam keyay htay, den ya tink da people in his country would be celebrating his capture the way they were, distributing sweets n all!
noway, and onemorw thing, u never answered any of the questions i put to u in ma pot above.ur juss repeating the same things.answer those questions first and then move onto sumthing else.

n ome more thing, wat in the name of god are u saying.allah ke nazar mein maybe saddam bohot acha admee tha? i mean, sure ill try n beat his score of 2.5 to 3 miillion people and kill 4 million people, n maybe ill be a one of the people in allahs good books aswell! is that wat ur trying to say imaan?
ur sayin maybe he did do sum good deeds too! yeah sure, he probably did, wen he was like 10 yrs old!i can put the same question to u in a reverse format,n tell u that he did a whole load of bad and cruel things..........dont juss judge him by his good side(doubt he has one). wat then? wud u agree with me or not?

n a very good point u made about not saying anything bad about a person i dontm know, well, u didnt personally know hitler, so can i guess u admired him then? or wat about arial sharon? maybe that basterd is actually an angel who really does want peace!
wat then huh? wud that change ur approach towards these guys aswell.if u put bush and blair in the same situation, wud u start liking them aswell! no, u never will, cuz i hate every single one of them out there myself!

okie an as for osama the angel, u say he wants peace and he wants to liberate the people of palestine? imean, who doesnt. but wat puts him in the bad books with me is that hes using the wrong methods of peace!. okie, lets take osama as an example, he wants the sharia law ti be implemented in every single country for muslims, right? okie, islam sez suicide is a very big sin, then y is he encouraging suicide bombers?
islam does not permit the killing of innocent people, who have not harmdd u directly. wat did they do? kiiled the people on those planes and the people in the trade centre towers.
islamically, physical fight or war is the last option that u should use and that too only for defense wen ur life is in danger, but these guys make it as if violence is the only way preacherd to us by islam.they try n solve everything with violence.if violence was the way that worked, kashmir would have been liberated, palestine would have been liberated! but do u see any of these things happening? no! u dont!
yet still, they encourage hatred against all non muslims, they wana try n solve everything with a gun in there hands.y is it that no other religion in the world is thought of so harshly as islam is now? y do the other religions respect one another enuf not to have hard feelings for one another? thats simply becuz islam has been given an image of a terrorising religion, a belief that runs on fear, by people thike these who r also called extremists.
a beautiful religion like islam, which originally the most peacful of all the religions, with no cast barriers etc, a religion that was the first to give women the freedom they had never sought, the respect they had never dreamt of.islam is a religion that radiates love, even towards the non believers.
i only recently found out from my relative who is an alim, that islamically, u are not allowed to say anything bad about any of the other religions.this was the way our prophet (saw) approached it.
no, how many of them do u think are following the true sunnah ways, the real sharia laws.not even one of them.
y do u think they r not successful in approaching the non muslims in a way that they can inspire them towards islam, simply becuz they dont wish to explain thing in the way those other people can relate to it. our prphet (saw) was cosidered a very modern man in his time, with a new belief, a new concept of life and a way of living, he attracted people towards islam by giving them examples of things they could relate to, they were made to understand things at their own level and ability to absorb things. how many of these guys do u see who go about it this way? very small amount of them. i know a couple of people who r going around spreading or atleast making their best efforts to spread islam in the way that our prophet (saw) would have approached it, and im not amazed that they have converted over 200 people into islam in the last 4 yrs.
i dont wish to argue with any of u out there, becuz u all seem to think bout things very egotisticaly, sorry to say, but u dont approach things realistically, so to understand the real situation. because in order spread islam, u have to interact with the non muslims, and if u dont interact, how r u going to make n affort to convert them to islam. the prophet (saw) was sent by allah to spread his word to the non muslims, and thats the first priority of any muslim who truly believes in allah.
now, if u guys think that hating non muslims for the reason that they r not members of our religion the right way to go about it, then so be it!
but thats not the way i think, and im glad of it!

Posted on 12/18/2003 3:46:54 PM

slik chik

handsome_gujjar:
ImaN ji

SLIK man i don't know how you can hate osama bin laden all my muslim sisters and bro's love him..this ain't cuz of osama u want peace well u know what u ain't getting peace no where this world was a disaster even before osama man you think your the smartest one here about you guys amaze me whats amazing huh your one of thouse poeple even if there wrong they will never say there wrong yoo don't talk man your talking nonsense tu ghuda nahin hai jo yeh patey ga key saddam guilty hai yaan nahin maybe u'll go to HELL and saddam will go to heaven who knows i'll be the first one laughing

and i can't believe some people on this forum are so quiet and listeinig to your nonsense yoo talk guyz ....your scared of em or what

btw iman gi your a devdasy hey i'm devdas
how about it..lol

dude, i neva sed i was the smartest one here, but from reading ur immature reply, i know one thing for sure now, that im definately smarter than u!

Posted on 12/18/2003 3:48:36 PM

SibS

enlightenment is the only way,for all u people to smile and stop fighting,and iam sure the full world will be enlighted by 2012.dont worry, there wont be any more fights based on leadership or religion,no more wars ,all we be happy forever.i can assure u that.

Posted on 12/19/2003 12:33:41 AM

slik chik