Why the hell people here are fighting on such petty issues. [8(]
Me not understanding.   [:x]
bombayarya why are you breaking your head. [8(]

Do you, by any chance think that they will ever understand. ha ha ha ha.
So ....dont worry be happy ...

i wasnt fighting with any1 i jwas just staing facts that i heard either on tv or internet by the starz themselves

well miss attitude
no disrespect to u but i dont want it to get out of hand. in uk it must be that way i am not denying it infact most parts of india inter faith marrages ar not permited but i specified this situation is in bombay city thats it. well no body cares ppl here hindus and muslims worship 2 to 3 gods in fact i have a photo of my hindu gods, jesus and now coz of my wife to be has given me a a photo of the kabba to keep with the rest her car has a statue of ganesha(which u call the elephant god)she believes in saibaba(a hindu saint) that dosent make her an less muslim the fact of the matter is that thankfully apart from the fanatics there is also a breed that dont care but that dosent make them less or more religious   
well joan of are i agree
so i am not gonna reply to argressive posts peace out

oops spoke too soon my soon to be wife

im not tryin to cause trouble with you but didnt that mosque got demolished in bombay or was it another city and besides wat about the poor part of bombay were hindu and muslim live seperatly and the muslim part got attaked few months ago and it was breaking news on zee tv well im not sayin all of bombay is like this cos its not but bombay is a big city and its not all braodminded in things like this and yeah their is freedom of religion in pak too. cos none can force to make you believe in something you dont.

as for parsis(zoristrian) again this is a very touchy issue
so just see it as facts and not propaganda if u want u can verify.
the history goes that this religion is one of the oldest religion of Persia (hence they have Muslim names) so when islam was expanding They weren’t very nice to the parsis (putting as mildly as possible)
So parsis fled Persia and most came to India to gujrat thats why most parsis speak gujrati some went to other places.
i am sure i am gonna get som ereplys for this but pls very fye this and then answere

And miss attitude
Neha duphia is sikh not muslim
http://www.geocities.com/FashionAvenue/1744/titleholders.htm l
and shenaz is very much a parsi or as we would call them bawi
she said it on mtv that she was a (bawi) hence parsi

i cant say anyhing about this that is cos i dont really know what a parsis is but my mosque teacher is from gujurat and he was on about them but i wasnt payin attention i wish i was now so wat do they believe in

I agree and the mosque was demolished in ayodhya (up)
Hell if it helps I am sorry not that I support it.
But then didnt ur extremists in pak and Bangladesh destroy
Hindu temples so I don’t think any one of us has the right to take a moral stand
All I am saying is in Bombay it’s a lot better
Ull have to see there are sections of society most of the ppl in Bombay
They Want to know where they are gonna get their next meal a few ppl do this stuff and the we suffer like ur terrorist give a bad name to islam doesn’t mean islam is bad
Out extremist give bad name to Hinduism doesn’t mean it’s a bad religion
Sadly some how I feel this is gonna be another one of those inane hindu muslim discussions

http://beliefnet.com/index/index_10035.html
this will inform u more about parsis
hope its helpful

sush----bengali
shehnaaz treasurywaala---- parsi
neha dhupia----sikha( incidentally the chick is from my school in new delhi) i love the ignorant argument raised by cute esha. comparing the worlds largest secular democracy against a small theocratic state whose basis of formulation was religion. we love india and ofcourse there are elements that exploit religon and that is true for both hindus and muslims but above a certain threhold it doesnt affect anybodies lives. muslims are free in india and love it here cause we have that u dont have in pakistan and that is freedom . i mean everything is dictated by religon in ur country where more muslims are killed by muslims than they are in india by hindus.i mean just yesterday a 100 odd were killed . its just crazy there .anybody can come with a weapon and shoot indiscriminately. the truth is that even with all its diversity india is so easygoing but pakistan being an islamic state muslims are killing muslims . the mohajirs , sunni shia . whats wrong with ur country.    india rocks and i m proud to be a part of this huge melting pot of civilization and thankful to my granparents for not migrating to pakistan. zeeyad38050.5223842593

and yes it is india where we have muslim prez , muslim cricket captain , muslim stars and virtually in every sphere of life while in pakistan is purely islamic country . this is why india rocks and pakistan sucks. ofcourse there are a few people in every religon on every side but noboody gives a rat as to them except for unedducated and poor people from all religons who are conned . religon cannot be the basis of any country . u r just obsessed by it and it consumes while muslims in india are not like that. i dont want a government to dictate me on moralities or what is prmissible in my religon or not like they do it in ur country . so get real trust me that i wont leave india for any place in the world . we would be a developed nation in 202o while pakistan would be still burning in ethnic and sectarian strife.

well said ....
[=D>]

yeah yeah develeped nation dreamon first it was 2010 know 2020.
Firstly bombayarya i only thought neh was muslim cos wen she was makin fiza she siad it was easy to play her role cos She comes from a muslim background.
Secondly zeeyad yeah maybe Indian muslims Do have have good jobs But that’s just the rich not the poor yeah and about pak yes we do have trouble but were not sayin it’s the best and we don’t unlike you guyz are sayin Overall it is a fact that muslims are treated betta in pak
Cos I have a dost she is from India and she told me that she hates it and prefers uk cos that so called
Place of your were she originated from some1 told her she doesn’t belong in new dehli she shud go to pak Just cos she had a argument with some1 and atleast noone can say this to any1 in pak

Thirdly about hindu temples
I don’t know about any that do exist in pak
But there are no Hindus   anymore so wats the point of keeping them wen no one is gonna visit them they got destroyed ages ago and the world is suppose to be more modern now but this kinda stuff still does happen in India. Worship place getting destroyed.
Fourthly there is a minority of sikh community in pak and their gudwaras do exist in pak today they aint been destroyed Cos it was on the news that some sikhs want to come from indi to pak to see them holy places You neva hear about us fightin with them unlike you guyz you have had civil wars with all religions
YEAH WE DO FIGHT WITH SHIA BUT THEIR BES ABIT OF TROBLE EVERYWERE EXCEPT INDIA WERE THERE IS TONNES OF TROUBLE

YEAH WE DO FIGHT WITH SHIA BUT THEIR BES ABIT OF TROBLE EVERYWERE EXCEPT INDIA WERE THERE IS TONNES OF TROUBLE

Just one more thing about this freedom you have. Well we have a country that follows Islamic laws.
But that’s cos the majority of us want this law.
Even we have a freedom of religion in our country.
That’s why their ar sunni shia Christian and sikh in our country who live peacefully yeah some times abit of trouble especially with shia but tha happens everywhere.
About mix religion marriages some parents in pak would except them too like in India.
this doesnt mean their is more freedom cos it depends on the parents their might be some parent in india that are stricker and wont excet it at all.

thats ms attitude at her delusionall best. if there s bit of trouble in ur country and a lot in ours why is india the # 2 destination for tourism in the world, while nobody wants to visit pakistan cause they fear they might get killed. look what happened to daniel pearl , the french engineers, nobody wants to invest in pakistan while indian foriegn reserves are a 200billion. look what we did in IT . poverty reduced from 36% to 21 while in pakistan it increased and is close to 38 % . clue urself in ms attitude. women have absolutely no freedoom in ur country and live under hudood and karokiri laws. interfaith marriges in ur country hahahah they would kill their daughters. look what u did to poor mohajirs who did migrate in 1947. there s a huge difference between ur society and ours. i am a muslim and ofcourse i get into religious arguments but no hindu can ridicule my faith infront of me like i cant belittle theirs. i dont understand what u do in pakistan when u r banned from frolicking or even spending lavishly on marriages and parties . or where ur artists are treated and paid shabbily . no wonder they all come defecting to india. get real .

and talkin about freedom and u givin me the speal about u following islamic laws .... well good for u livin under the dictates of one army general after the other . and bein so stringent that one cant even breathe ..forget havin fun . i wonder what u guys do in the evenings or weekends since there are no night clubs ir discos or other froliciking places and opposite sexes are not allowed to mingle and u cant even drink cause the general says so . read ur own newspapers and discover how deprived this whole scenario is . about the hindu muslim thing ... it sure comes with diversity ..its part of the package .. its none in pakistan cause urs is such a singular society that its not even fun seein the same kinda people everywhere while india is pluralistic . its all about integration , but the kinds who will wear their saffron robes or their islamic caps would never get out of that mould and would continue to fight and bicker . check the uno census . more people are killed in pakistan than in india even when its 8 times bigger than u . why are there travel alerts to ur country . why no company wants to invest there ..tourists dont wanna go there. i m not sayin ur country is bad but its very constrained, restrictive and troubled for sure.

listen i aint gonna bother argueing bak with you cos bottom line is pak is betta than india and now its not the 2nd best tourism place in the world yes it does have more tourist than pak but that cos we dont influence on tourism that much as you guyz do. We dont care f pervez is dictator cos he is one of the bestest govewrnmetn we have eva had and he has also boosted outr businesses.
And everyone know their is alot more violence iin india than pak its not our country where they show on bbc news big civil wars either with muslims or sikh in 1984 they dont make films like FIZA fornothing thats the only film that show real india.
PS its not our army that rapes girls in kashmir who they have shown on the sky news

well miss attitude you seem to be talking about pakistan and thier people and u do not know how many hindus live in pakistan that just shows how ignorant u are about ur own country you shold probably comment about a religion or a place when u know comething about it hindus are still living in pakistan
here is some info http://www.hvk.org/articles/0702/138.html
i mean u live in uk and u beleive what u hear man u definately get som seriously wrong info

hey zeeyad forget it dude its pointless
cant believe it i am giving u the same advice joan of ark
gave me. i dont blame ignorant ppl
my feeling is they have always been taught that u and me cannot live to gether and all this just to justify the partition. imagine the shock they get when they see u and me living happyly so peace out bro
and miss atitude no hard feeling just research a lil more before u post coz u seem to be as ignoran about india as much as u are about pakistan   

just one more thing my uncle is married to a christian paki women she didnt get killed by her parents and neither did he

ps im not gonna bother with you two livin in fake india anymore cos the truth Is to bitter for you guyz init.

Maybe I didn’t know that they exist in pak cos maybe we probably haven’t had any problems with them.
your so modern country kills new born girls in the villages like china Even today

hahaaha arya . see this chick . i just dont believe it .. shes just so incorrigable ...not her fault though .that s what shes been conditioned to do . poor girl should vacation in india and we would show her the time . be my guest ..but only if u r pretty though cause ugly girls are out of bounds..hahah kidin .i think she s just frustrated and bored silly in pakistan . whatever s happenening in kashmir or elsewhere is politics and i m sorry we have nothin to do with that. u need to chilll ms. attitude. the problem is extremism of any kind wether its hindu or islamic doesnt pay . see whats happeneing to muslims in the west. that s where we are the most hated and ridiculed. hell they killed more of us than hindus . see how derogatory they are when they are talkin about us ..pakistan is almost considered a failed state and now its further embarrased itself by selling nuclear technology to the rest of the extremist countries. i hope u realize how much it has damaged ur reputation . the muslims and hindus who get involved in these fracases are the very poor illiterate types who are just frustrated and angry at life and that s where their energies are released . i care two hoots for these people and i mean both hindus and muslims . so the fact of the matter is that there are all kinds of people but what matters is how the majority of people are . india is one place where we live in freedom , free from any dictates wether religious or govenmental . its the place where women of my family can do what they want , wear what they want , roam around late nights without bein hassled but ofcourse u have no idea whats that all about eh !!!!!!!!!!!

Is that the best you can come out with your pathetic will i dont wanna now. I’ve been to pak and all I can say that I was freed to do whateva I want. I aint gonna bother criticising your India anymore cos I have nothing against it or its people just losers like you who are anti pak and just don’t have bottle to admit.

i m not anti pak ...dont get me wrong . but facts are facts . i m sure u love ur country and that s very nice but u cant deny the soup it is in .

and you cant deny the soup your country is in i mean i agree pak has some bad points but so does india and i know you wont believe this but the violence levels in india are worser than pak but thats probably cos its a bigger country or somec.

nobody enters a mosque or a procession and kills a 100 people here and this happens on a regular basis in ur country . i m not anti pak but i hate the extremist level to which u take religon . atleast i can fathom hindus and muslims fighting each other but i cant imagine muslims killin each other . i agree babri masjid was demolished but are they gonna make a temple there ....no way ....bjp is in power ..if they could they would have done it by now . nobody is above the law . the point is that politicians could exploit poor illiterate people into doin stuff but people are not idiots to be conned again and again . i just feel sad at ur judgement and ur depraved way of thinking . but that s cause ur so used to livin in ur own shallow gene pool and ur perspective is so narrow bout thingsand that s how one s mind functions when one lives in a singular society with just one kind of people . too bad ms attitude.

and about politics pak i dont know wat they show on indian news but here in the uk pak has been shown as a good government and was given money by america for supporting them in war against terrism, AND ANOTHER THING A FEW WEEKS AGO ACTUALLY LAST FRIDAY ON THE ZEE NEWS THEY SHOWED THE INDIAN PRIME MINITER SAYIN THAT PAK SHUD BE DECLARED AS STATE OF TERRISM AND IT WAS AMERICA AND EUROPE WHO SAID YOUR REASONS ARE NOT JUSTIFIED.

zeeyad:

nobody enters a mosque or a procession and kills a 100 people here and this happens on a regular basis in ur country . i m not anti pak but i hate the extremist level to which u take religon . atleast i can fathom hindus and muslims fighting each other but i cant imagine muslims killin each other . i agree babri masjid was demolished but are they gonna make a temple there ....no way ....bjp is in power ..if they could they would have done it by now . nobody is above the law . the point is that politicians could exploit poor illiterate people into doin stuff but people are not idiots to be conned again and again . i just feel sad at ur judgement and ur depraved way of thinking . but that s cause ur so used to livin in ur own shallow gene pool and ur perspective is so narrow bout thingsand that s how one s mind functions when one lives in a singular society with just one kind of people . too bad ms attitude.

i dont know who told you 100 people cos it was 39 people and this has only happend twice and i know its wrong but in your country it happens more

what good government are u talkin about where some military general just snatches power at gunpoint every couple of years . its a jk . u r still living in the gun culture . that makes u a medival society . killing is way of life there . u have alqaeda there and ofcourse u r trying allign urself with the us in the war of terror cause there s no other option for u but even then the american media is so hostile towards u . ridicules pakistan on a daily basis . first u support taliban gain power ..then u get em killed ..what a jk this is . no wonder the new afghan government wants nothing to do with pakistan . karzai is indian educated and lived his young life here and hes a smart man. i could just type u the links to 1000 s of websites to show u how every couple of months 100s get killed just praying. i pray for the indian teams safe return .