SohniKuddi said:THERE WILL ALWAYS BE OPPOSITIONS IF WE TRIED TO MAKE ANY MOVE TOWARDS "DEMOLISHING" THE IDEA OF CASTS. I DON'T THINK ANYONE CAN MARRY INTO A DIFFERENT CAST WITHOUT HAVING FREINDS AND RELATIVES MAKING STORIES OR FINDING WAYS TO DEGRADE YOU....IT'S LIKE TABOO OF THE PAKISTANI VIEW.
BadShaH1 said:GodSpeed in ur quest sohni!
SohniKuddi said:Salaam....well this topic is about marriage and how different casts prefer not to give and take rishte from people from "Inferior" casts, I myself think that this is a load of rubbish, you should be able to marry whoever you want regardless of what their ancestors did.
A friend of mine was seeing this guy, they went out for a long time, my friends family were a bit strict, their relationship was a secret for some time, they decided they wanted to marry, but her parents did not want her marrying this guy...why? because his cast was inferior, she was some sort of raja and he was some...erm i dunno how to pronounce it so i'll leave to "he was of inferior cast" people of higher cast tend to look down on others of lower cast, this is condemning that people in this century still belive in casts, and still look at a persons cast before getting their children married. Well, she can no longer see him, and her parents are looking for a "higher cast" husband for her. So what do you guys think?
LiL_DollY said:
SohniKuddi said:Salaam....well this topic is about marriage and how different casts prefer not to give and take rishte from people from "Inferior" casts, I myself think that this is a load of rubbish, you should be able to marry whoever you want regardless of what their ancestors did.
A friend of mine was seeing this guy, they went out for a long time, my friends family were a bit strict, their relationship was a secret for some time, they decided they wanted to marry, but her parents did not want her marrying this guy...why? because his cast was inferior, she was some sort of raja and he was some...erm i dunno how to pronounce it so i'll leave to "he was of inferior cast" people of higher cast tend to look down on others of lower cast, this is condemning that people in this century still belive in casts, and still look at a persons cast before getting their children married. Well, she can no longer see him, and her parents are looking for a "higher cast" husband for her. So what do you guys think?
3 simple words
This is Haram
You know...Islam allows us to marry anyone who is Muslim...whether...black, white, mexican, african, chinese.
So why is it that parents cant just drop the rubbish tradition of marrying within your cast. I can relate to this situation very much so. My fmaily thinks this way. Especially my dads fmaily. Although...my mothers fmaily is a bit more...open about things.
The new generation to get married in my fmaily. Has married out of their cast. And I hope many more marirages to come will be same also.
Someone has to break the tradition. We are the next generation so why not be us.
LiL_DollY said:who cares if the guy is rich or poor...
as long as he has knowledge about islam...
he's kind hearted
generous
and loving.
YUP, TRUE, YEAH ALSO AGREE SD.
somebody thought in another forum that I was dumb and didn't even have 4th grade education. SohniKuddi said:...WE HAVE THE SAME PROB HERE, MEMBERS OF OUR FAMILY LOOK DOWN ON PPL WHO GET ARE IF INFERIOR CAST, AND IF NE1 MARRIES INTO A LOWER CAST GOSSIP STARTS FLYING AROUND AND THAT PERSON IS ALSO SEEN AS INFERIOR, WE DON'T HAVE THE FREEDOM OF CHOSING WHO WE WANA MARRY COS OF CAST. I'VE DISCUSSED THIS A LOT WITH PPL WHO BELIEVE AND SUPPORT THE CAST SYSTEM BUT THEY SEEM TO BELIEVE THEY ARE RIGHT AND THAT IT'S DESTINY LOLZ.
YES IT IS HARAM, I MEAN WE SHOULD BELIEVE IN EQUALITY, WE ARE DIVIDED AS MUSLIMS INTO SCHISMS AND ALSO US PAKISTANIS ARE FURTHER DIVIDED INTO CASTS, SO WHERES THE EQUALITY?
ERRM ABOUT THE GENERATION THING, DO WE HAVE THE GUTS? I MEAN IS THAT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT PPLS WORDS? I KNOW WE MUST DO THE RIGHT THING BUT WON'T THE BELIEFS OF OUR PARENTS AND FAMILIES BE REFLECTED ON THIS GENERATION ALSO, I EXPLAINED IN AN EARLIER POST ABOUT THIS AND IT SEEMS THAT SOME PPL OF OUR GENERATION STILL DO BELIEVE THIS.
SohniKuddi said:LOLZZ WHERE DID THEY GET THAT IDEA
SO GO ON DOLLY WHAT WERE U GONA SAY?
who you talking about.Smooth_daddy said:
Thanx for your compliments
Well...I believe the other person was wrong. LiL_DollY said:Sighing...such a serious topic. But it's something thats happeneing right now...right this minute.
Sohni I hear your concern. AS you are saying that people of our generation go along with the cast tradition.
GirlFriend
All the folks in my family ...young folks. Well I know they dont think like this at all.
When I used to live with my parents. All the gals in my family would get together at my aunt's house with all our friends once a month.
Together we would pray and read quran and hadith. We would discuss issues and so on.
And being Paki is an issue period.
In my community there are the typical pakistani gossip makers. BUT WERE WILL YOU GET IN THE WORLD IF YOU KEEP OBSSESSING ON WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK AND SAY. Yes, I knwo that it hurts sometimes especially when hteir sayingstuff about you. But what will they get out of talkking ***t about their Muslim Brother or Sister behind their back.
Im not a goodie too shoo myself. I believe no ones perfect. But, I think before I say something. If I cant say it to the pesons face then I try not to say it at all.
Yes, I mean...I told you that alot of the newer genration folks are marrying a differetn cast. Or my moms fmaily has some MExican, African-American, Costa Rican, Caucasion, and Indian. SO were a lil diverse. Its mostly the old grandmas, and grandpas...that have more of an issue with it. I remember my grandma saying...that girl married a white guy. And I didnt say anything but inside I said to myself. Well that white guy was also Muslim.
People change when they become educated.
Just compare our fresh of the boat paki peeps with the educated paki peeps that live abroad...and tell me do you notice the diffrence.
SohniKuddi said:
LiL_DollY said:Sighing...such a serious topic. But it's something thats happeneing right now...right this minute.
Sohni I hear your concern. AS you are saying that people of our generation go along with the cast tradition.
GirlFriend
All the folks in my family ...young folks. Well I know they dont think like this at all.
When I used to live with my parents. All the gals in my family would get together at my aunt's house with all our friends once a month.
Together we would pray and read quran and hadith. We would discuss issues and so on.
And being Paki is an issue period.
In my community there are the typical pakistani gossip makers. BUT WERE WILL YOU GET IN THE WORLD IF YOU KEEP OBSSESSING ON WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK AND SAY. Yes, I knwo that it hurts sometimes especially when hteir sayingstuff about you. But what will they get out of talkking ***t about their Muslim Brother or Sister behind their back.
Im not a goodie too shoo myself. I believe no ones perfect. But, I think before I say something. If I cant say it to the pesons face then I try not to say it at all.
Yes, I mean...I told you that alot of the newer genration folks are marrying a differetn cast. Or my moms fmaily has some MExican, African-American, Costa Rican, Caucasion, and Indian. SO were a lil diverse. Its mostly the old grandmas, and grandpas...that have more of an issue with it. I remember my grandma saying...that girl married a white guy. And I didnt say anything but inside I said to myself. Well that white guy was also Muslim.
People change when they become educated.
Just compare our fresh of the boat paki peeps with the educated paki peeps that live abroad...and tell me do you notice the diffrence.
I'M NOT TALKING OF ANYONE IN PARTICULAR, BUT I HAVE COME ACCROSS YOUTHS THAT STILL BELIEVE WHAT THEIR PARENTS TAUGHT THEM ABOUT CASTS. I'LL REPLY IN FULL LATER, I GOTTA GO NOW
SohniKuddi said:Salaam....well this topic is about marriage and how different casts prefer not to give and take rishte from people from "Inferior" casts, I myself think that this is a load of rubbish, you should be able to marry whoever you want regardless of what their ancestors did.
Smooth_daddy said:and why is that? can you please expland on it!
